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Mike Rowe’s must-read response to an Alabamian who asked why he shouldn’t follow his passion

  • written by Cliff Sims
  • on October 1, 2014 at 5:42 pm CDT
Mike Rowe, host of "Dirty Jobs"

Mike Rowe, host of “Dirty Jobs”

Mike Rowe of “Dirty Jobs” has made a habit of going viral on the Internet by responding to fan questions, like the time a fan told him to prove he was the real-deal and wasn’t living a posh celebrity lifestyle and Rowe responded by giving a photo-tour of his apartment.

On Tuesday it was Stephen Adams of Auburn, Alabama who wrote in questioning a now famous speech in which Rowe said “follow your passion” was the worst advice he’d ever received.

“Hi, Mike. Let me begin by saying that I love what you and your foundation are attempting to do,” Adams wrote. “However, I’m confused by your directive to NOT “follow your passion.” I think it can be safely argued that if no one followed their passion, companies like Apple, Microsoft, Dow, and many more wouldn’t exist. If no one follows their passion, who innovates? Who founds companies that provide jobs for the outstanding workers that your foundation aims to help?”

Rowe’s complete response can be found below:

Hi Stephen

A few years ago, I did a special called “The Dirty Truth.” In it, I challenged the conventional wisdom of popular platitudes by offering “dirtier,” more individualistic alternatives. For my inspiration, I looked to those hackneyed bromides that hang on the walls of corporate America. The ones that extoll passersby to live up to their potential by “dreaming bigger,” “working smarter,” and being a better “team player.” In that context, I first saw “Follow Your Passion” displayed in the conference room of a telemarketing firm that employed me thirty years ago. The words appeared next to an image of a rainbow, arcing gently over a waterfall and disappearing into a field of butterflies. Thinking of it now still makes me throw up in my mouth.

Like all bad advice, “Follow Your Passion” is routinely dispensed as though it’s wisdom were both incontrovertible and equally applicable to all. It’s not. Just because you’re passionate about something doesn’t mean you won’t suck at it. And just because you’re determined to improve doesn’t mean that you will. Does that mean you shouldn’t pursue a thing you’re passionate about?” Of course not. The question is, for how long, and to what end?

When it comes to earning a living and being a productive member of society – I don’t think people should limit their options to those vocations they feel passionate towards. I met a lot of people on Dirty Jobs who really loved their work. But very few of them dreamed of having the career they ultimately chose. I remember a very successful septic tank cleaner who told me his secret of success. “I looked around to see where everyone else was headed, and then I went the opposite way,” he said. “Then I got good at my work. Then I found a way to love it. Then I got rich.”

Every time I watch The Oscars, I cringe when some famous movie star – trophy in hand – starts to deconstruct the secret to happiness. It’s always the same thing, and I can never hit “mute” fast enough to escape the inevitable cliches. “Don’t give up on your dreams kids, no matter what.” “Don’t let anyone tell you that you don’t have what it takes.” And of course, “Always follow your passion!”

Today, we have millions looking for work, and millions of good jobs unfilled because people are simply not passionate about pursuing those particular opportunities. Do we really need Lady GaGa telling our kids that happiness and success can be theirs if only they follow their passion?

There are many examples – including those you mention – of passionate people with big dreams who stayed the course, worked hard, overcame adversity, and changed the world though sheer pluck and determination. We love stories that begin with a dream, and culminate when that dream comes true. And to your question, we would surely be worse off without the likes of Bill Gates and Thomas Edison and all the other innovators and Captains of Industry. But from my perspective, I don’t see a shortage of people who are willing to dream big. I see people struggling because their reach has exceeded their grasp.

I’m fascinated by the beginning of American Idol. Every year, thousands of aspiring pop-stars show up with great expectations, only to learn that they don’t have anything close to the skills they thought they did. What’s amazing to me, isn’t their lack of talent – it’s their lack of awareness, and the resulting shock of being rejected. How is it that so many people are so blind to their own limitations? How did these peope get the impression they could sing in the first place? Then again, is their incredulity really so different than the surprise of a college graduate who learns on his first interview that his double major in Medieval Studies and French Literature doesn’t guarantee him the job he expected? In a world where everyone gets a trophy, encouragement trumps honesty, and realistic expectations go out the window.

When I was 16, I wanted to follow in my grandfathers footsteps. I wanted to be a tradesman. I wanted to build things, and fix things, and make things with my own two hands. This was my passion, and I followed it for years. I took all the shop classes at school, and did all I could to absorb the knowledge and skill that came so easily to my granddad. Unfortunately, the handy gene skipped over me, and I became frustrated. But I remained determined to do whatever it took to become a tradesman.

One day, I brought home a sconce from woodshop that looked like a paramecium, and after a heavy sigh, my grandfather told me the truth. He explained that my life would be a lot more satisfying and productive if I got myself a different kind of toolbox. This was almost certainly the best advice I’ve ever received, but at the time, it was crushing. It felt contradictory to everything I knew about persistence, and the importance of “staying the course.” It felt like quitting. But here’s the “dirty truth,” Stephen. “Staying the course” only makes sense if you’re headed in a sensible direction. Because passion and persistence – while most often associated with success – are also essential ingredients of futility.

That’s why I would never advise anyone to “follow their passion” until I understand who they are, what they want, and why they want it. Even then, I’d be cautious. Passion is too important to be without, but too fickle to be guided by. Which is why I’m more inclined to say, “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.”

Carry On
Mike

What do you think about Rowe’s response? Let us know in the comment section below.


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  • Joshua Forrest

    Absolutely perfect response. Mike Rowe hit the nail right on the head.

    • Ken Marlo

      Considering what he says about his “handy gene” this post is inadvertently hilarious. I’m not sure Mike COULD hit the nail on the head. :-)

      • Joshua Forrest

        By wife just asked me what I was laughing at. Thank you for that response.

        • poot

          I thought you were going to say your spelling.

          • knarf714

            I think the spelling is fine…like me, the typing could use some work.

          • Nathan McKindles

            Exactly which spelling are you referring to?

        • holoh

          Me too! Bi the way, you’ve got a by wife?

      • Pierce Nichols

        These days, he seems to swing a different kind of hammer…

      • shades_usaf_1337

        nice! http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/296/849/4b5.jpg

      • Kirk Bushell

        hahahaha. Well played, sir 😀

      • joedu

        I don’t think any amount of humor Mike infuses in his missives is unintentional or inadvertent. He’s a master.

        • Ken Marlo

          Uhmmm, Joe … I was talking about Joshua’s post. Way to miss the gag before chiming in, man. *thumbs up*

        • cardmaster1

          Yes he is!!

      • BangBangUptownGang

        Mike acts like some Blue Collar everyman hero who wears that same stupid hat even if hes at a black tie event thats his shtick…In reality he comes from an upper middle class he’s college educated he’s an opera singer and he’s actor…lol..so corny

        • Ken Marlo

          Cool story.

          • BangBangUptownGang

            Thanks Ken!

        • Ryan Donovan

          Ad hominem

          • BangBangUptownGang

            Thanks Guest!

          • Justin Ardoin

            You mean “truth”. Notice that the biggest advocates of the “just be a janitor” type are never actually janitors themselves. It’s so easy to tell other people to trade their health for wealth. The worst thing you could possibly do is spend half your life in a manual labor position only to have if automated over the second half of your life. You need skills that machines cannot do if you want a long term career. Thinking skills. I’m pretty sure somebody who majors in French and medieval studies could probably land a job as a teacher in France if they were so inclined to do so. What this amounts to is somebody from the upper middle giving advice to those in poverty about how to be happy in poverty.

          • Bryan Simmons

            Being an employed janitor beats being an out of work anything else. Not to mention that there isn’t a cap on what you do. Start as a janitor, take some classes, get some training, use some work ethic and get your next gig. BTW if you don’t want to trade your health for wealth then make yourself marketable in something that is actually in demand. Just like teachers. There are a ton of people with teaching degrees in history, art, music, PE, and other areas that there are few jobs in. What this amounts to is someone who is successful giving advice to a society full of people who typically aren’t.

          • Devin_MacGregor

            I always love the simplicity of just do this or do that.

          • Bryan Simmons

            Its not a simple do this or do that, it is as simple as just do” SOMETHING”. Following your passion is a great thing, if you can make a living at it, but if you can’t then find a job that you can do, and put your best efforts into it. Do all that you do with as much passion as you can muster.

          • Benje Evans

            Justin,

            Someone needs to weld, turn wrenches, be a plumber, wire houses, lay brick, cut trees, build roads, clean pools, cut grass, clean toilets and yes, ride on the back of garbage trucks. People are different! Someone with an IQ of 90 will never steer a corporation and someone with an IQ of 140 will most likely not cut grass for long.

            The best outcomes happen to those in the right place, with the right idea or skillset. If a person has an IQ of 140 with no work ethic, no drive and no desire, they will get the same outcome as the 100 IQ person.

            Life is hard.

            It is harder when you are stupid.

            Regards,

            Benje

          • Amanda Wenner

            Sadly, even garbage trucks are automated now….only need a driver.

          • jjjorts

            Then it must be really hard to be you.

          • Christine Gift

            The other difference is seeing the plan. Those who choose to do more in life and makea logical plan and follow it are the very people who become greater than they once were. Those who choose to steer from that plan are those that get lost in the bigger better mind set or the get rich quick theme. There is no short cut. Yes money buys another step in life but it does not buy you the support of others you need along the way. You can’t make friends stepping on others the whole way. And yes you always need someone by your side even at the top. And stop thinking you won’t havea boss. Even the wealthy have a boss. No substitute for hard work and struggles.
            Best regards,
            Chris

          • Annie Mac

            had a young friend who told me long ago, he had mensa level IQ, told him, that’s nice, what are you planning to do with it? for starters, he threw away a full scholarship to Julliard, spent a bit of time in prison, for can’t remember what, and may or may not still be a drunk junkie at this date, that was about 40 yrs ago, sooo, yeah, high IQs may or may not be so hot, altho, I did hear at one point he was a helluva crane operator when he could stay straight long enough

          • Kenneth Epps

            There I disagree, I spent 13 years at IBM and found the Peter Principle to be alive and well.

          • Gideon Waxfarb

            ‘You need skills that machines cannot do if you want a long term career. Thinking skills.’

            You also need skills that can’t be outsourced to other countries …

          • Florentinapetillo1

            Kinda true…

        • Kevin Yourk

          ….

          • BangBangUptownGang

            Go suck a dick you hipster faggot

        • Somebody_Something

          So? Let Mike Rowe be whatever he wants to be. He doesn’t put himself in a labeled box,why should you?

        • Florentinapetillo1

          Interesting

        • SmokingReb

          Clearly you haven’t seen Dirty Jobs, the show. LMAO

    • Thor

      as ususal. =)

    • GrenadeTrade

      Like many kids, i was in a band in high school with two other guys. Quarter of a century later, one’s a lawyer, one’s a writer and one works in finance. We could have never guessed what we’d become in our middle aged adult life – but for certain, not one of us thought we’d become rock stars.

      • Bob Burns

        Sell out

        • GrenadeTrade

          Nah, we just sucked really bad. :)

      • Edwin

        I take it that one isn’t a “song”writer. Amirite?

    • John doe

      Agreed, he gave a very practical answer. You can follow your passion if it pays the bills. But at some point you have to suck it up and take work just to get by.

      • Dusk

        kill your dreams and just work to survive? yeah, right

        • Nancy Marine

          Dusk, that’s not what’s being said in the slightest. It’s not about “sucking it up” but, perhaps, recognizing following your passion might not be the best course if your passion isn’t what you’re good at doing, thus earning a living at it.

          The message here, and also given by John Doe, is that it’s a wonderful thing to “follow your passion” or your bliss. However, it’s not always the best thing if you really suck at it.

          In using an example from Mike Rowe’s response to his writer, I think we can all agree that cleaning out septic tanks would be a truly horrible job. But one man does it:

          I remember a very successful septic tank cleaner who told me his secret of success. “I looked around to see where everyone else was headed, and then I went the opposite way,” he said. “Then I got good at my work. Then I found a way to love it. Then I got rich.”

          At no time does this septic tank cleaner SAY he loves what he does, he says he FOUND a way to love what he does. It’s not his passion, but he’s okay with himself and with being a septic tank cleaner.

          • musikman71

            Aren’t we assuming whether a person is actually good at their passion though? That seems to be the theme here. Luck has a lot to do with success in music. You can be the best singer in the world, but you need opportunity…a break some times just to be able to capitalize on it. It takes time, hard work and little bit of luck.

          • Devin_MacGregor

            LOL, no he is saying he loves it. You said he found a way to love it. Love what? His job. And no it is his passion. That is what Mike was saying PUT PASSION INTO WHAT EVER YOU DO. Sucking shit became his passion and he loved it. It made him rich and probably because no one else is sucking shit. So if more people sucked shit then less money could be earned.

        • Mo86

          It’s called making a living. It’s called real life.

          • holoh

            Why do that when you can just be a democrat?

          • Keith

            or a dumb as* like you.

          • holoh

            dumb as what, you fucking moron?

          • Keith

            can’t keep up, ride the short bus, it will all be okay someday.

          • Geek0id

            BS.

          • Ugly Truths for Free

            It’s called “Grow up, move out of mommy and daddy’s house, and get a real job.”

          • Mo86

            Absolutely right!

          • Ingersolid

            More bluster from the Libertarians: “you’re a failure if you’re not making six figures” and sundry rotgut.

          • laurele

            No, it isn’t. It’s called hell on Earth.

          • Mo86

            Making a living is hell on earth? GROW UP!

          • Devin_MacGregor

            Most people make a living just some live better than others.

        • Derrick Amundsen

          You have to be a millennial.

        • vincemilburn

          Would you rather not survive?

          • SomeGuyIKnow

            Dusk would rather let the government take care of him.

        • Guest

          Do tell, Dusk… what is this dream you plan to follow? I’m gonna make a guess…. video game designer. (And yet you probably don’t know how to draw any more than scribbles on a notebook, you probably don’t like mathematics and probably have never even attempted to learn programming… you’re just playing other people’s games until the “big idea” just comes to you, right?)

          • Me

            Dude, cool it on attacking Dusk. You shouldn’t just assume things.

          • Glen so

            ALWAYS follow you passion, it is what gets you out of bed in the morning. Just because you are not good at it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to be the best you can be at it. Life is short, if you want to shovel shit then try to be the best shit shoveler
            you can be. Just he give it your all and see how it goes. You may find another passion on an offshoot of your first. Like wiping babies behinds, you don’t have to be great at that…..you just have to enjoy it MIKE!!!

          • holoh

            That is idiotic advice. Follow your dreams – even if that means you have to live off of the hard work of other people in society via food stamps and welfare. Or worse yet, not be able to provide for your kids or family because you are following your dreams instead of taking responsibility. Give me a break, liberal.

          • Marta

            As soon as you call someone a liberal or a democrat to win your argument, you lose all credibility. However it is very predictable that someone who’d start their post with “That is idiotic advice” might end it off with insulting the stranger by calling him a liberal.

          • holoh

            I didn’t ask you, bitch, so shut the fuck up, liberal.

          • Marta

            Oh my, aren’t you the cream of the crop of humanity. Geek0id has a much better grasp of the English language than you do. And if you post on here, you ARE asking, me or anyone else who’s reading. That’s the problem with you republican pieces of crap (or at least the ones who use your goofy political views to justify being a dick to anyone who doesn’t agree with you,) you want to spew your hate and bullshit, but lord forbid anyone questions you or points out how insanely stupid you sound, you throw out a bunch of junior high talk, symbolically grab your gun and feel like you’ve made the point of the century. FAIL. Troll.

          • Ugly Truths for Free

            Shut the fuck up, half-witted troll cunt.

          • Marta

            And I’m the troll cunt. Here’s some words of wisdom from Mr. Ugly himself. (Just click his name above to see the extent of his wisdom – I have a sneaky suspicion that Mr. Ugly and Mr. Holoh are the same excrement using different stupid names – their vocabulary is of the same age group, as is the ability to articulate a thought.)

            Shut the fuck up, half-witted troll cunt.

            Dude, suck it.

            What a perfect example of “wisdom from someone who never had to worry about eviction.”

            It’s called “Grow up, move out of mommy and daddy’s house, and get a real job.”

            You are a complete idiot. No one has ever received an Oscar for waiting tables, stupid……; and on and on it goes.

          • holoh

            Yes, you are the troll cunt.

            I especially like how you insult us for what we said and then turn around and say nearly the same thing, i.e. “Dude, suck it” and “You are a complete idiot”.

            Hypocrite much?

          • Marta

            OK, so I will reply one more time, but only because you’re a total moron who needs help. I was quoting your buddy Ugly Truths for free whose quotes I picked up by checking out his profile. As I mentioned, I have a sneaky suspicion that you and Ugly are the same moron. You are completely messed up man. Maybe you should lay off the crack for a while

          • holoh

            You replied to me again two hours after this post. Keep trying, you stupid hag.

          • Ugly Truths for Free

            You’re running your cock-holster again, when you should be shutting the fuck up and doing something useful. Like drinking a nice big mug of Drano.

          • holoh

            “goofy political views”? Would that be the same “goofy” views that greater than 50% of the country has as evidenced by the House and Senate both being majority republican now? Not so goofy – more like majority.

            Also, you clearly do not know what the word cogent means. It means clear AND logical. As in: your argument that my political view is “goofy” is not cogent because it is illogical for the reason I point out above.

            In summary, shut up you stupid cunt and get back in the fucking kitchen.

          • Rachel Zimmermann

            How’s THAT for cogent? Do you actually believe you’ve shamed her with your sophomoric horse shit? You sound like a child. In fact, if you’re over 20 you are an abomination of such epic proportions, I’d expect you to blindly vote republican. I hope to god you’re loaded because your buddies just raped social security…again. Unless you’ve got a billion in the bank, you might need to be reminded Ho…it’s a big club. And you ain’t in it.

          • holoh

            I certainly don’t have a billion, but at age 34, I’ve got enough to very comfortably retire on without the help of anyone else. It’s the only club I want to be in.

          • Marta

            Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep sharing your delusions of grandeur buddy. So you’ve just come back from a 12 day holiday and all you can do is sit on this site and troll everyone for everything with self righteous, pompous bologna. I see how much you troll and what a class A citizen you are. I have fontrum for you – you and Mr. Rowe aren’t even the same species. Your club is a club of one. Enjoy lefty and rightie ( I imagine ‘rightie’ is more your cup of tea.)

          • holoh

            Way to quote Star Wars. Let me know when you want to talk about the real world and actually respond to one of the logical points I’ve made instead.

          • Marta

            Star Wars? Try a Psych 101 textbook. But you wouldn’t know that because you spend your entire life in front of a screen thinking you’re the cat’s ass, when in fact you only smell like the cat’s ass. School eluded you.
            I have reported you to the administrators of this site as you are breaking all of their terms of use that you agreed to. I have sent them all the crap you’ve called me and alerted them to your history where all you do is troll for a fight so that in the same cowardly way that hooded gunmen can go in and kill a bunch of people, you hide behind your goofy communist red spot and keyboard and spew awful words at people who come on here for an actual discussion or to be inspired by someone who’s actually done something with their life. You literally spend all of your pathetic time trolling. I feel nothing but pity for you and I hope they kick you off so that you might find life. Good luck getting laid. I see you have some fantasies by some of the crap you write to women, but I’m guessing if you got any, you wouldn’t be talking this smack. Oh right, you’re a misogynist, no jigy jigy for you.

          • holoh

            I’m in the US military, you stupid wretched whore. So shut the fuck up.

          • Marta

            Typical holoh response. Focusing on one point while thinking about your ‘solid argument’ -ha, or should I say HA! Loooooser to the Nth degree. Thank god you’re not Air Force – probably artillery, or infantry…. or permanent latrine duty guessing by your intelligence level.

          • holoh

            I am Air Force – 17 years. I’m also extremely intelligent – I just play one of lesser intelligence on Disqus to tick you off.

          • Marta

            Well sir, you deserve the Oscar.

          • Taha Shaukat

            Why are militarymen such douchebags and bigots.I bet you think Mexicans are taking over ‘Murica,gays are mentally ill and women belong in the kitchen.Does the military make you this way or only idiots like you are recruited?

          • holoh

            You are saying that women don’t belong in the kitchen and yet you call me a bigot? I believe women can do anything men can do, including being world-class chefs. How dare you say they don’t belong in the kitchen, bigot!

            Also, what is wrong with Mexicans taking over America? If they have the money to purchase or rent property and the initiative to get jobs and other resources, then they should do so. How incredibly smallminded of you to call that “taking over”.

          • Marta

            Once again, there you go, twisting words, acting all high and mighty, and more intelligent, and more worldly, and less judgemental. When in fact, you are the MOST judgemental halfwit I’ve ever had the privilege of reading. Maybe you got to fly all over in your Air Force plane, but I have a feeling you didn’t get to go out beyond the bases much. You are definitely knowledgeable about air force stuff, but man, when it comes to the rest of life….there’s a significant knowledge gap. You need some help dude, and it aint gonna come from outside your skin. Perhaps it’s time to stop judging others and turn that critical mind inward.

          • holoh

            Wow, you’ve really invested a lot of time reading hundreds of my posts. Why are you so obsessed with me and why haven’t you emailed me yet so we can get together and I can give you this dick?

            Look, I’m dead serious about wanting to eat your pussy and make you cum. Email me soon!

          • Marta

            I throw up in my mouth at the thought of it.

          • holoh

            Then why not let my cock “throw up” in your mouth, baby?

          • Marta

            I’ll call you when I need something small enough to pick my teeth with.

          • holoh

            Good one! You’re spicy! SHOW ME YOUR TITS!

          • Marta

            You’re funny, in a sad, pathetic sort of way. What would your cousin/wife say?

          • holoh

            I asked her and she said “Show him your tits!” Also, I just need to be clear here that she is my second cousin, so it’s ok.

          • holoh

            No reply today? Maybe you sent me an email instead. If not – holoh2863@outlook.com

            Serious as a heart attack – let’s fuck!

          • Marta

            Thanks for the brilliance you’re so willing to impart Dr. Holoh. You’re the pinnacle of misogynistic-chest-beating-know-it-all, that comes complete with perpetual verbal diarrhea pretending to be educated/intelligent thought. I wonder which woman in your life made you the ‘man’ (I use the term very loosely – only denoting gender really) you are. An insecure, unloved, sad, pathetic excuse for a human, who spends his time telling the world how awesome and smart he is, most likely holed up in a basement suite (or mom and dad’s place) surrounded by smelly old pizza boxes, dirty shit streaked underwear, and moldy cups. I’m picturing it right now, and I truly feel sorry for your tweezot ass. This is the last bit of energy/thought I am giving you. You are so not worth it.

          • holoh

            Did you want to try to dispute my cogent reply or are you going to continue ignoring the fact that I used logic to absolutely DESTROY your argument to just call me names? Also, how did you know that I have a PhD?

          • musikman71

            Majorities in Congress change back and forth over time. The President was elected twice too. There will probably be a Republican in the White House too after 2016. It’s cyclical.

            You are clearly an ignorant person resorting to name calling and offensive comments. If your cogent argument was so strong you wouldn’t need to resort to that.

          • holoh

            What is your point? Even if only 40% of the country were conservatives, there would still be no way to logically call that “goofy”.

            I don’t know what you are talking about regarding offensive and name calling. Marta is currently in the kitchen where she belongs instead of replying to me and she has to have a “man” (I use the term loosely) reply on her behalf.

          • Marta

            You are hilarious in your oversized ego, and undersized penis.

          • holoh

            It’s a good thing I’m undersized because your vagina is so old, dry, and crusty it would have hurt both of us if I were normal sized.

          • Marta

            magnum baby, that’s what I got at home. But you wouldn’t know what that is since you buy your prophylactics in the finger bandage area.

          • Marta

            Where have you been buddy? Why aren’t you replying to ME? Waxing you legs and bikini line? Putin’ on your make-up? Suddenly, you’ve fallen off the radar and your pithy insults have run dry or did the admins shoot you out of your Yertle The Turtle, spot in the web for all the trolling, and bullshit you spew?

          • holoh

            Lady, you are obsessed with me. I’ll fuck you if you want, just so you can move on with your life. Message me at holoh2863@outlook.com. Yes, I’m serious.

          • Marta

            Dream on buddy. Remember, you publicly told everyone that your penis is little and crooked. Who wants any of that, aside from your gimp in the basement.

          • holoh

            I’m still waiting for you to contact me. Yes, still serious. I think we could have some insane make-up sex.

          • Marta

            There’s nothing to make up. You’re a moron, who is quite entertaining, and I only think of you and your type when there is discussions of trolls, ignoramuses, and ijits. The only reason I decided to check if you’re back on is because I was just discussing such morons with a friend who actually has a brain (unlike vous.) There will be no, I repeat, NO contact.

          • holoh

            Let’s make some contact between my cock and your vagina. holoh2863@outlook.com

          • holoh

            I thought you already said you wouldn’t contact me again. Go ahead and send that email. Yes, it’s a real address. Yes, I’m serious. I’ll eat your pussy.

          • Marta

            Sounding a little desperate bud.
            You hold on to that dream, sounds like there isn’t much else to keep you going.

          • holoh

            I won’t tell anyone if you do. But I will make you cum. I guarantee it.

          • Marta

            Tweezot

          • Marta

            Go tweezterbate

          • Glen so

            Thx Marta
            Mr ugly sure has found his passion. And has some real talent for it doesn’t he? I’m sure he’ll find an ugly job as well. HEY ….
            UGLY jobs for ugly people that could be a new show. He should call Mike and tell him to help with following his passion.

          • laurele

            Being a liberal and a Democrat is a badge of pride! I will be both to the day I die, unless the Democratic Party abandons progressive principles, in which case I will just be a liberal/progressive.

          • Geek0id

            Sine you can actually provide and argument, and create ad hom attacks, you have lost.
            Please learn to be congent.

          • holoh

            Is “Sine you can actually provide and argument” cogent on your planet? Get back to me when you can actually use English properly, cunt.

          • TheNameGame

            lol what a pussy.

          • Glen so

            Holos
            There are 168 hours in a week. You can follow your passion and have time for a job as well. People who have drive,grit, and determination to archive what the want in life are probably NOT the ones on welfare.
            And if the people who do in life what they want are liberals than the people who make other people rich at the expense of there own life most be conservatives. I by the way am neither.
            Thx for the reply.

          • holoh

            And there’s a reason why Mr. Rowe and I are significantly more successful in life than you.

          • Glen so

            Very proud of ya

          • musikman71

            How in the world could you possibly know this for a fact without knowing the people you are referring to personally? You’re making an assumption…and you know how the saying goes. You might wanna consider that before insulting people you’ve never met.

          • holoh

            I can name virtually everyone who is more successful than me and I know that they aren’t idiots. You and several others on here are idiots, so I know you aren’t one of those people I know. Therefore, I know that I am more successful than you. It’s called logic.

          • musikman71

            It is not humanly possible for you to actually know virtually everyone who is more or less successful than you. And once again you resort to name calling. It’s not logic. It’s a massive assumption. And success is defined differently depending on who you talk to. So you’re using your own singular definition of success. Which in and of itself is fine. But, even under you’re own definition you couldn’t possibly know everyone who is more or less successful than you. There are 300 million people in this country. You don’t know all of them.

          • holoh

            To me, success is knowing the difference between your and you’re.

          • Marta

            I’ve seen you use that argument on other threads, along with the quotation mark argument. Is that because that’s all you’ve got, and a logical argument is far beyond your grasp? I say yes.

          • holoh

            Using quotation marks incorrectly is logical to you?

          • Marta

            That’s just getting old. Get with culture and pull your nose out of your ass.

          • holoh

            What a coincidence; I’m a anthropologist. Culture is what I do for a living. Please provide your evidence that quotation marks are coming into common use as an emphasis designator.

          • Marta

            Funny that, that’s what my degree happens to be in as well (although mine is real and yours is fantasy.) Although I’d like to go along with you on the discussion of Anthropology and the use of ‘quotes’, I believe what you’d be referring to would be ‘air quotes’ as they are used as a form of non verbal communication from a linguistic anthropology perspective. What you’re actually talking about is when people use quotation marks in writing to emphasise a point, or bring your attention to a certain word being out of alignment with the rest of the thought process on the page. This would fall more under the subject of WRITING and the example of the rule can be found in this writer’s website: http://www.dailywritingtips.com/how-to-add-emphasis-to-your-writing/

            As you can see in the explanation, (and these are real quotation marks for those of you who can’t tell the difference – holoh) ” Quotation marks are often used as what are called scare quotes — emphasis markers that communicate novelty, irony, or a nontraditional use of a word or phrase. Writers overuse scare quotes. Except in special cases, they should trust readers to understand the unusual use of a word or phrase.”
            I DON’T think anyone can be accused of overusing scare quotes around you because nobody should trust you to understand what a normal mind would be thinking.
            But now that you know, you can stop using people’s use of quotation marks as one of your ‘cogent arguments’ against anyone who challenges your ideas.

          • holoh

            I like how you didn’t respond directly to my correction of someone about their misuse of quotes and instead did so on another page so I couldn’t directly point out that they weren’t using scare quotes and were in fact using them for simple emphasis. I am not referring to air quotes or scare quotes. I am referring to someone using them for simple emphasis.

            So, shut the fuck up, bitch.

          • Marta

            You keep incorrectly correcting people for their use of quotation marks on so many threads it’s embarrassing. What’s extra funny is that you think that using that argument somehow sanctifies all your other bullshit. You keep talking about how people don’t respond to your points, but you don’t make any, you just call people names and use stupid arguments.
            I just had a great idea. I’ll sick the new show ‘Troll Hunters’ on you. What fun that would be. In fact, I’m going to send them your page right now. I hope I get to see you on TV.

          • holoh

            Bring it, slut.

          • Marta

            I’ve brought it a long time ago. I’m waiting for you to bring it, but it hasn’t happened so far. Crickets. Silence. More crickets.

          • holoh

            I want to fuck you.

          • Marta

            So sad and pathetic you are.

          • holoh

            Wow, coming back to me after 2 months to comment on that? You seriously need to write me and we need to get together. I’m very serious Marta. holoh2863@outlook.com

          • Marta

            Can you see it? The world’s smallest violin playing a sad, sad melody for the injustice you’ve been forced to live through in this instance. It’s so hard being you. “While my guitar gently weeps.”

          • holoh

            Wow, you just can’t stop thinking about me. Also, violins are not guitars, dumbass. Get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.

          • Marta

            ha ha – you keep using the same lame insults. I must admit you are quite entertaining, I don’t think I’ve ever conversed with someone as gimped out as you, intellectually that is. Keep’em coming, you’re the only reason I keep logging into here. Morbid curiosity I guess, like a gruesome car accident that you can’t help looking at despite knowing it’s not good for your brain.

          • Marta

            And that’s why you’re so far ahead in your life.

            A success story worth writing home about. You should write a tell-all on your secret to success. Oh wait, you just did.

          • Marta

            That would be a list of 6.91 billion people – less you.

          • laurele

            The ones who are really living off the hard work of others are the big corporate polluters–CEOs and executives of timber, mining, and oil companies who receive more in corporate welfare (government subsidies) than anyone does on social welfare and pay practically no taxes whatsoever. They also profit from child and slave labor in foreign countries.

          • holoh

            You seriously believe that? The CEOs don’t receive “corporate welfare” – companies do. You know, those companies that pay taxes and provide jobs for people? You liberals really need to think about logic for once. Without companies, there are NO JOBS and NO TAXES, which means no employment and no welfare!

            Also, CEOs and executives don’t “profit”, OWNERS of companies do, and anyone can be an owner by simply buying mutual funds. And my wife and I combined only make about $75,000 a year to provide for a family of four, yet I still invest in mutual funds to save for the future, so don’t whine to me about how only rich people can save. It’s not what you make, it’s what you spend and what you save.

          • musikman71

            Without people there are no companies. See how that works? You don’t become a successful business in a vacuum or without the help of people in the form of employees and customers. Nice try though. Companies aren’t doing people a “favor” by giving them a job out of the goodness of their hearts.

          • holoh

            I’ll come down to Port St. Lucie and sue your ass for libel if you put quotes around something insinuating that I said something that I didn’t say again.

            Also, what you said has nothing to do with what I’m talking about and doesn’t contradict what I’ve said in any way. Without companies there are no jobs and therefore no wages and therefore not taxes and therefore no welfare. Without employees there are no jobs and therefore no wages and therefore no taxes and therefore no welfare. Without customers there are no jobs and therefore no wages and therefore no taxes and therefore no welfare. In other words, it takes business owners, employees, and customers to make the system function. See how THAT works?

          • musikman71

            That’s exactly what I was saying. You can’t have one without the other. Relax. This is an exchange of ideas. Apparently, you’re the only one allowed to express an opinion. I put quotes around the word “favor” for emphasis…not insinuating anything. Again…relax. You resort to name calling and act like you’re better than everyone on here. All I did was point out the obvious and you basically agreed with me by restating what I said.

          • holoh

            I am better than everyone else on here. At least I know that quotation marks are not correctly used for emphasis.

            https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=quote+for+emphasis

          • Marta

            At least you know that much. Right on buddy. Good for you. Aren’t you awesome?

          • Marta

            You’re a perpetual self contradiction. It’s quite a display actually.

          • holoh

            Thank you. I try my best.

          • Marta

            I can tell.

          • Marta

            Ha ha ha ha.

          • Taha Shaukat

            Without employees companies can’t do shit.If Mcdonalds or Walmart exist,it’s because their employees work to keep the business running.You think all these Fortune 500 companies are successful because of some hot shot CEO shouting commands,NO,it’s because their employees work to keep the company running.So yeah the companies aren’t doing charity by giving jobs,they’re doing it cause they kinda need to!

          • holoh

            What is your point? Of course if most companies had no employees, they couldn’t operate. Of course there are companies where the owner does all of the work and there are technically no employees, but that is beside the point.

            Please show me something I said that proves that I “think all these Fortune 500 companies are successful because of some hot shot CEO shouting commands”. You can’t, so you are a LIAR and a SLANDERER.

            What I did say was, “it takes business owners, employees, and customers to make the system function”. If you don’t understand that it takes all three to make a business work, you are a moron.

          • Devin_MacGregor

            No you were correct the first time when you said libel. Slander is verbal. This is what you said: “Without companies, there are NO JOBS and NO TAXES, which means no employment and no welfare!” To which this was the reply: “Without people there are no companies. See how that works? You don’t become a successful business in a vacuum or without the help of people in the form of employees and customers. Nice try though. Companies aren’t doing people a “favor” by giving them a job out of the goodness of their hearts.”

            And this was you recanting after the reply: “it takes business owners, employees, and customers to make the system function. See how THAT works?”

            This is not what you said previously. You are not really saying much either. I do know how it works. Pay workers well and they can buy goods and services you sell which in turn pushes the economy faster. Pay them wages they cannot or barely can live on and the economy will teeter and move at a snails pace.

          • holoh

            Oh, is that why China’s economy has been growing at one of the fastest rates in the world while they pay average wages of $9000 per year? I love the idiotic liberal logic that is instantly easily disprovable using real world examples. Good job helping me completely discredit you and your argument.

          • Devin_MacGregor

            CEOs and other execs get paid in stock options as well. In fact that is why in the 1990s stocks rose because more and more income was not simply in some salary which we call base but paid in stock options. Their pay is base + stock options + bonuses. So they ARE owners in the company. Many of them are major shareholders. So if the stock value goes up so do their profits off it.

          • Devin_MacGregor

            Maybe you should not have kids if you cannot afford them.

          • Ego

            Always follow my passion eh? So I should go out and try and be a singer, yet I don’t have the money to get actual vocal training, nor do I have the actual voice to even be competitive in that field of work, no Following you’re passion is a fools advice, you are right Life is to short, if you want to be successful and not live under a bridge be realistic… Do what your good at, not passionate about…

          • Glen so

            Ego,
            Don’t let your ego get in the way if you really want to sing. If you want to sing than sing man. Hard work always trumps over talent. If you had your voice box removed than ya you might have an issue. But I bet one day there will be a famous singer who uses one of those voice simulators. And to sing you better have passion…..just pick up a nirvana
            Album and hear for yourself. Thx for the reply.

          • Ugly Truths for Free

            Dude, suck it.

        • John

          It’s simple, actually. Don’t have STUPID dreams! If they are stupid, they deserve to die!

        • vincemilburn

          I could be wrong, but people who talk like this are usually coming from a place of privilege.
          Those who have actually lived through harsh poverty understand that just achieving a middle-class lifestyle can in itself be a meaningful goal.

          • Dallas Townsend

            success is define in many ways, not just with riches but others like happiness, family, ect.. so middle class is just fine if that meets your comfort or happiness to feel good about yourself.

          • Ugly Truths for Free

            What a perfect example of “wisdom from someone who never had to worry about eviction.”

          • Ingersolid

            You’re a fount of cynicism pretending to profundity. Let’s be honest: you never had to worry about eviction either, did you? Your comments suggest a Midwestern, middle-class upbringing, rich in compromise, guilt, and suspicion of anything suggesting “culture.” In a phrase, I’d say you’re an “ugly American.”

          • Geek0id

            Yes. In fact, you could say you need to be passionate about going from first poor to middle class.

          • Joe Schmo

            I definitely think you are right. I grew up not in poverty, but definitely lower middle class in a single parent household where budgets were a priority and vacations, toys, eating out, etc were a rarity. I fortunately got to go to college on a full ride and many of my friends and roomates came from upper middle class backgrounds. They spoke of following their passions and pursuing degrees without any job prospects, all while their parents footed the bill. Many scoffed at me for my “boring, passionless degree” in the STEM field. I am now finishing up my doctorate in healthcare and will soon be making 6 figures, be able to support myself well, and have no travel or +40 hr work weeks so I can be around for my future family.

            To me, that is what I was passionate about and happy with, although my job isn’t exactly the romantic ideal. And many of my afforementioned friends are now living with their parents and still scoffing at me and others that we “sold out” and don’t have “fun jobs.” I think the biggest mistake most people make is thinking their job should define their lives. I just didn’t want my family to not have a home, not be able to ever go out to eat, or never be able to go on a nice vacation and not have any economic flexibility. You obviously shouldn’t hate your job, and for those that can skip into work everyday and make a good living I applaud, but there aren’t enough of those jobs in the world for everyone. For the vast majority of people, it seems like a naive and privileged view from people that have never had to struggle at all before in their lives. I define myself outside of my work by the person I am and the company I keep, and I enjoy that I will be helping people in my future work. Why does your job have to be everything?

          • Devin_MacGregor

            Joe you are an exception not the rule. Those upper middle class kids for the most part go on to really nice jobs and lives etc.

            What is laughable is this hate the poor that is so rampant today. Most in the US will never be better off than their parents are. I come from a lower middle class family who had none of that. We would had been in poverty if my Mom had not gone work when I was 2. I went into the Army when I was 18 right out of High School.

            From my online experience since 1995 those who say just do that or just do this are typically those who come from a privileged background not the other way around. Most of them just think they are ordinary people and have no idea how others live at much lower economic levels.

        • Stu Johnson

          Jeez Dusk, these guys sure made a lot of assumptions about what you think, or want, who you are,ect…that are far beyond what I could glean the ten word comment you left. The ancient Greeks had a word for people like that: assholes.

          But to your comment, I would say that a balance has to be struck between pursuit of dreams and paying the bills. Otherwise, you might find yourself with no stability in life to pursue your dreams. I know firsthand what blind ambition can lead to.

          Wish I had taken this same advice when I was younger.

        • Sven Mueller

          I think the point is to find something you are or could be good at. If you don’t have anything you can be passionate about _and_ be good at, find something you are good at, and build up a passion about it. Like the septic tank cleaner in the interview.
          If you really are good at something, it isn’t too difficult to be passionate about it, if you aren’t already

          Someone said that success is the product of talent and effort. No talent for your passion? No amount if effort will ever overcome that. No effort? No amount of talent can overcome that either. Mediocre effort combined with mediocre talent beats both. Combine much effort with good talent and you will be world class.

          That (and a decent amount of luck) brought Bill Gates, Larry Page and others to their successes.

          • a_2_z

            Best comment and wisdom on here!

        • JaymeC

          Or follow your dreams to homelessness and poverty? I guess it’s up to you what you’re more passionate about – food in your stomach and a roof over your head or your music/art/random passion? You can hold onto a passion even when it isn’t your career. My career funds my true passion, and therefore I am passionate about my career and what it adds to my life.

          • musikman71

            Why does it have to be either or? What if they have the talent and skill but just haven’t gotten the right opportunity yet? So much of success is luck. Hard work of course too, but yeah..luck helps. The right break helps. The world isn’t as black and white as you and some others would like to make it out to be. I’m glad you found what makes you happy and have found a balance in your life. I don’t think it is constructive or helpful to put people down for following their dreams without knowing their specific situations as some, not you, have done on here.

        • Ryan

          For people, like myself, who work to live (as opposed to people like my wife, who live to work), this is great advice. It took me a long long time to realize that I hated pretty much everything that was available to me and that I was too old to pursue the lofty dreams I had as a child. I’ll never be an astronaut or a world-changing politician. Once I came to terms with that, I was able to find decent employment; I’ll never love it, but I love what the money allows me to do on my free time. I also love the future it allows me to build for my family.

        • Kyle David Mills

          I work my regular job (which I enjoy, but am not really passionate about) so I can have the freedom to do what I want on my own time and pursue my other passions.

        • holoh

          Yes, absolutely right. Your dreams suck if they don’t make you a productive member of society.

        • Fiki Firmansyah

          Hard Truth

        • J M

          It’s called the “pursuit of happiness”, or at least how the courts have interpreted Jefferson’s words. ::)

        • awesomedreams

          We’re all debt slaves in a Capitalist world. #RBE #FTW

      • Theresa L Sterling Tucker

        I actually don’t think that is what he meant at all. I think what he meant is, you can follow your passion, but if you aren’t good enough at it to make a living, you need to re-evaluate and find something you are good at.

        • Michael T. Babcock

          He mentioned more than once that there are jobs that need filling by people who don’t have jobs because they set their expectations wrong. I think in fact that’s exactly what he’s saying — go out and take a job you can do instead of caring about your passions so much.

          • Geek0id

            He create a false dichotomy that you and either follow your passion, or do something else.
            You can do both. Also, he only measure success with money.

            Most those people at the Oscars? they followed their passion, even while waiting tables.

            Mike Rows is bad for America.

          • Ugly Truths for Free

            You are a complete idiot. No one has ever received an Oscar for waiting tables, stupid.

            “Those people at the Oscars” are the ones who are “bad for America.” They produce nothing of actual value — look at the Oscar-winning movies of the last 30 years and you will find few that are still valued as “classic” well-made movies or that were awarded to actors who are still considered talented.

            Meanwhile the US workforce continues to shrink. Jobs requiring actual skills and trouble-shooting ability continue to either go unfilled — mechanics, plumbers, etc — or are outsourced to places like India and China — programmers, for example.

            The only growth in “American” jobs of late is service industry crap. And that is only because we haven’t figured out a way for a $10/day worker in Guangzhou, China to serve lattes to unemployment-benefit-collecting 30-year-old “kids” living in their mom’s apartment in the US.

          • laurele

            There is nothing wrong with extended families living together. It is actually better for the environment because having everyone live on their own means more CO2 emissions to heat, light, and air condition separate residences.

          • Guillermo Lamphar

            EXAACTLY.

          • Irritational

            How idealistic. Mike Rowe said, though I paraphrase, have the good sense to realize if you suck at your passion, and then find something useful to do. My passion is music, but I am smart enough to know I’m not good enough to make money at it. So I learned how to bartend, which I excel at, and have music as a hobby. Life goes on. We grow up.

            Keeping America going is not bad for America. Telling everyone from infancy they’re entitled to a 7 figure salary and a fantastic job is.

          • Crazzywade

            I completely agree with you irritational, as I’ve always been a fan of cars. Went to school for it, worked at a body shop, then a mechanic shop but, after all that, became a manager of a salvage car auction. I still tinker with my passion (Cars) on the side but, I was never good enough to make a career out of working on them.

          • Duane Cummings

            Love your honest answer.

          • swordfishBob

            What a great way to adapt – you found an intersection between your passion and your ability.
            There’s plenty of audio technicians with a passion for music, who couldn’t make it as a pro musician. Of course there’s also a few dodgy ones.

          • Susan Long Percy

            I agree you you 100%. I also am passionate about music. I am not good enough to make it a career. I chose to do something else so I could pay my bills and fulfill my love of music by singing in an opera chorus. We can find ways to still enjoy the things we love but be practical. It takes a willingness to look hard at what we can really do and be honest with ourselves on how we chose to do it.

          • plato’s apology

            Hmm….. interesting responses, but how about this. What if Mike Rowe’s thinking is wrong? What if all this talk about what is good or bad for America is just foolishness? Wait….. before you claim I’m not-patriotic and throw some insults my way just let me explain. Think about it…. Is America a person? No. It’s a human convention. Only people our persons. So, if we take it upon ourselves to do the thing that is the “good.” And, give people around the advice to achieve their “good.” Then, we would be caring about people I.e. ourselves and others, and that human convention we call a country will be just fine. This seems a little more sensible than arguing about some made up concept: the nation.

          • Benje Evans

            What did you actually say?

          • fuzzball

            in case you haven’t heard: corporations are people, too.

          • Devin_MacGregor

            Those are separate things. You can have a passion to be a social worker and help people but that typically is not going to pay the bills. Mike also said to not follow your passion but put passion into what you do do.

            You do know that a small percentage of actors actually have acting jobs at any one time? They are following their passion they just need to do other jobs to pay basic expenses in between acting gigs. That includes the ones at the Oscars.

            Now look at you? Aren’t you doing both? Many bands out there have to take on other jobs to support themselves in between gigs. This does not mean they suck at their passion of being in a band.

          • Annie Mac

            Absolutely, thank you, you said it perfectly

          • TheNameGame

            I thought he tried to balance the two, but that was just my own take.

            Because passions change. And “following your passion” can mean being an incredulous dick at all costs to get that thing which you call success. I thought the last couple of lines that Mike said was a good summation of how much emphasis we place on the word, “passion,” without fully understanding that it can be really good, or really bad, or really evil…it really depends.

          • gdeez

            No geek0id…you and your piss poor grammar are bad for America.
            It is because of the way you think that so many Americans aren’t working and we have fallen behind the rest of the world.
            It is because of the way you think that so many immigrants come to America for work and that too many Americans think that they are above certain types of work.
            It is because we fill every kids head with idea that college is the best and only way.
            It is because this country has a sad and arrogant sense of itself that we are the way we are.
            This country reached greatness in the 1940-50’s NOT because everyone was a college graduate but because Americans knew the importance of hard work and were proud of it!
            Now go back to playing video games on grammy’s tv and leave the thinking to those of us who know what the hell we’re talking about.

          • disqus_V3sAshGUq1

            Yes sir… Completely concur with your response.

          • Johnathon

            what so people who play video games don’t know what they are talking about?

          • Devin_MacGregor

            That is a load of crap. We pushed college in the 40s-50s as well. Not everyone is a college grad today. A lot of people are working hard. They just do not make enough.

            We were shipping out Manufacturing jobs in the 1980s. Those workers got retrained into white collar jobs. This process kept on happening in the 1990s as AUTOMATION has well consumed those blue collar jobs. This was the start of trade schools where are expensive that offer you training to get you certified in something. It was also the start of private colleges that ballooned and has cause the rise in tuition costs.

            In 2000 we started to outsource those white collar jobs to where wages for those jobs that were climbing in the 1990s were now stagnant or falling. Some of these jobs were offshored as well displacing those workers.

            80% of the jobs we keep saying Americans do not want Americans do as in POOR Americans and their wages are depressed by the influx of the other 20%.

            I am 48 and an Army Vet. YOU do not know what YOU are talking about.

          • laurele

            There are many other ways to measure success–changing people’s lives, being a mentor, making the world a better place. These may not necessarily pay well, but they can make a huge difference in creating a better future for everyone.

          • justin rinehart

            You need money to be successful. Even if you live very simply you need some kind of money, but practicing guitar for 8 hours doesn’t pay the bills. And if you read the whole thing the bottom part was basically what you just said. Don’t look exclusively to your passion to survive, but always be passionate about something. Mike Rowe is just telling the truth in a world where hurting your feelings is almost a crime. Mike Rowe is precisely the role model America needs

          • Glenn Clarke

            Thank you Justin for being the one here that pays attention to the story line. Passion is a wonderful thing to have … we must have it just to make our lives interesting, but you can have all the passion in the world which is great for you, but if you don’t bring to the table a qualified skill at your chosen endeavour … what was the point of “following your passion”?
            I speak as an outsider to America, but as a human being I would think that Americas biggest problem has always been the idea that you can have anything you want if you just apply yourself. The problem has always been that there are so many who wish “to have it all” but are to lazy to do what it takes and are unaware of the fact that there laziness is at fault and nothing else.
            There is an old quote “To thyne own self

          • Kyle Lewis

            The point was geek, to take a job. He puts that in right at the top, then at the end he concludes with “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.” this blows your dichotomy idea out of the water.

          • Will

            He isn’t saying don’t be passionate about your work. He is saying don’t let your initial desires/passions guide you to a job. Find a job that suites you, then find a way to be passionate about it. I was halfway through a social work degree that ill suited me, but I was idealistic and “following my passion.” Turns out cooking and helping to manage a family business it’s calmer for my mind, easier on my ego, and I have found a way to be passionate about it.

          • Biff Bannon

            He presented no false dichotomy – quite the opposite: he deconstructed it. And he spoke so clearly and plainly that my rephrasing things for you would probably not assist in your understanding. Sounds like possibly you’re one stuck in a rut and spinning wheels following an ill-advised course according to your ‘passion’ and resentful of Mike for speaking an uncomfortable but necessary truth.

            Mike Rowe bad for America?!? I’d vote for him for President if he were foolish enough to run.

          • Chris Henn

            talk about your ‘dirty jobs’ eh?

          • Kevin Conway

            Let me guess; your passion is to become an English teacher…

          • Ingersolid

            Yours was clearly to become a spiteful twit. Congratulations. 😉

          • Tamara Warriner

            America is bad for America. I really don’t think Mike Rows views and opinions are what you should be worried about.

          • Jason A. Quest

            Rowe didn’t create that dichotomy; your passionately poor reading comprehension did.

          • Karen Krajenbrink

            No, the people at the Oscars were trained AND were good at what they did, so they can talk about how passionate they are all they want, but they had the skill to back that up. As a professional artist, passion will only get you so far. You need to have skill. So yes, passion helps, but if you’re not good, passion won’t make you better.

          • Jeff_Allard

            He measures success by being a productive member of society. That is: someone who’s self-sufficient through whatever occupation they pursue. What he says is simple, pragmatic, and true. Be passionate. Follow your passions. But also be self-aware to know when you’re pursuing a dead end. Doesn’t mean you have to leave your passion behind but it means you have to temper your thinking with realism. There’s no false dichotomy. It’s not either or. It’s ok to pursue your dreams but be prepared to adjust them when confronted with reality. Those people at the Oscars represent an infinitesimal percentage of society. The larger portion of the world will not experience that type of success. But that doesn’t mean they can’t experience success of a different sort on their own terms.

          • Lucky Bradley

            I think you miss it slightly, he isn’t saying don’t care about your passions so much, he is saying go for a job you can do and find something that gives you passion in that job.

          • Moogiechan

            Part of it, too, is being honest about what you can do. It’s not always what you’re passionate about.

        • Kanishka Ray

          The problem is that there are at least a few people who aren’t capable of being good at anything.

        • BangBangUptownGang

          Mike acts like some Blue Collar everyman hero who wears that same stupid hat even if hes at a black tie event thats his shtick…In reality he comes from an upper middle class he’s college educated he’s an opera singer and he’s actor…lol…so corny

        • awesomedreams

          bc Capitalism SUCKS.

    • Edwin

      and in the coffin, haha.

    • Highlander

      Very well said… if you judge a fish for its ability to climb a tree he will grow his life thinking he is useless.. That is the main job of parents, figuring out what we can become. Someone once said. Don’t work on your passion, work on what gives you money and you can buy your passion.

  • KHSoldier&Writer

    Make a living, get settled and obtain a level of success….then you can pursue your dreams!

  • Jason

    I never knew Mike was so wise.

    • Rogo

      Or the Auburn guy was so dumb.

      • Jason

        It is ok bammer. We still need people like you to deliver our pizzas. Just please try not to be so late next time or no tip for you. And would it hurt you to brush your teeth once a week.

        • Rogo

          Isn’t Auburn in Alabama?

          • Dennis Robison

            just barely

          • Dennis Robison

            Any one with a reasonable education would know that. It is not smart to call someone dumb then immediately ask a dumb question. You and Jason must be kin somehow.

          • Rogo

            You know there’s a big Alabama/Auburn rivalry, right? Try not to take things so seriously! Yes, I know where Auburn is. When he was poking fun at me for being a bammer I was making sure he knew Auburn was IN Alabama too. I bet you’re a hoot to hang out with! I hope you’re catching the sarcasm…

        • Dennis Robison

          Your comment demonstrates intelligence beyond anything in Alabama. I am happy you have found a way to boost your esteem by putting others down. The Auburn guy may or may not be dumb, but he did show some class. You should be ashamed for such childish remarks that most quit using in the third grade.

          • Nicholas America Cartwright

            Who do you think you are automatically assuming all Alabamians are less intelligent than others?

      • Timothy Reeves

        Not necessarily dumb. There is some value in his question. For one thing, without it, we would not have had Mike Rowe’s great answer!

  • No Grass

    Mike gave a very good and well thought response. It is akin to the ole saying, “When life gives you lemons make lemonade.”

    For those thinking of what to do? What are my wants, wishes, and possibilities? I highly recommend the book and associated tools, “What Color is Your Parachute”.
    [http://www.amazon.com/What-Color-Your-Parachute-2014/dp/1607743620]

    The book and the accompanying web sites guide you through your Skills, Knowledge, and Abilities, coupled with your personality traits and wants….It works!

    • Sandra Baugher Casteel

      As the mother of a college sophomore who has no idea what his major should be, I am going to look into this book. I hope it helps him!

      • Joe Sneed

        You might consider aptitude testing at Johnson O’Connor. They have a testing center in Atlanta. It takes a couple of days and costs about $600. We found it beneficial for our high school senior.

      • Tim0926

        Another good source of aptitude testing is the “Career Direct” program offered by Crown Financial Ministries. Crown’s home base is Gainesville, GA, but I believe Career Direct is available nationwide. Also check your community colleges.

  • Heather Puckett-Wilson

    Wish more people displayed this much awareness of “real” life. Stay dirty, Mike!!!!!!

  • Denny

    I was happiest as a house painter
    But I followed my passion to be a nurse. I should have stuck with the brush.

  • Lona Courington

    Mike, I am a grant writer for a community college. I have recently discovered that my often unrealistic optimism comes under the personality heading of “Idealist – Champion.” I encourage people to aim high – to try things others wouldn’t.
    Over the years, as I struggled to find my own career niche, I have developed a facet of realism that only comes to someone like me through maturity and hard knocks. I know now that life is filled with unplanned destinations.
    You see, I was the one with a dream. I wanted to be an artist. I have some drawing talent and I wanted to make it a career. As I studied art at the University of Alabama, I planned to take that spark of talent into the commercial field and do wonderful things for some advertising agency somewhere. I also took some writing classes and my instructor, Camille Ellabash, and others told me that my real talent was writing. I would not listen. I liked writing but art was my true passion. I loved the smell of oil paint, the feel of cold-press paper, and molding clay was down-right therapeutic for me. I thought that if I worked harder and caught some breaks I could make money in graphics although graphics was not where I excelled. I was good at figure drawing and painting. Everyone said that graphics was where you made your living and painting and drawing should be the sideline income. I had no clue about any of it. I just knew I was happy when I was in the art department.
    Thankfully, I did take classes in writing and communications, I worked at the newspaper and did other jobs that led me into communications and management for non-profits. My writing skills gave me an edge with grant-writing that eventually led to where I am now. Who knows where I would have been by now if I could have let go of the “art dream” earlier. of course that dreamer inside me says, “but what if you had gambled everything and become a studio artist?”

    Do I still do my art? Yes! And soon I hope to have some pieces in a gallery.
    Could I have made a living at it if I had pushed harder and longer? Maybe. A small percentage do. But the odds are not good for me as I was never among the top 5 – 10% in my class at Alabama and Alabama is not among the top 5 – 10% of schools for art. It really was a longshot any way you look at it.
    Does that mean I, the champion of under-dogs, would advise against pursuing a dream. Never! But when the dream is a long-shot I say
    – Seek advice from someone who IS where you want to be.
    – Really define where it is you want to be and what you are willing to risk to get there.
    – Listen to what respected others tell you about yourself
    – If possible, develop a back-up plan that has better odds of real earnings. Luck is really unpredictable.

    • SuzyQue

      Lona, that really resonates with me. I have a similar story.

      And, as some wise man said (CS Lewis maybe?), those who pursue happiness are doomed to not find it.

      • Nils

        And if Lewis said it, he probably got it from Boethius.

    • Mel

      THANK YOU!!! Over the years so many have told me that I should be a writer. From my high school English teacher to my friends of FB today. Aside from being a bad speller, it comes easy to me. Yet I have done everything but that for many years now. I started a book over a decade ago that I now feel I MUST finish. You have now encouraged me to the point of excitement!! I will get back to it TODAY. Thank you!!!

      • alphadeus

        Mel…I have been pushed in the same direction…but my writing skills both typing and spelling made it hard…I actually write bumper stickers that sell around the states..they don’t make much money but it’s something unreal to be in a different state as see my stickers for sale…maybe cos my favorite job was being a stone mason…the idea of creating things that effect people is a passion..even if I have to personally get covered in water. ..mud..stone dust..scorched or frozen to get that stone done…it becomes a legacy…As do my works..one humorous statement at a time

      • Jason

        Mel, just because you can’t spell or, in alphadeus’ case, type, doesn’t mean that you can’t write. Writing, I can tell you is more than perfect spelling, grammar, or keyboard operation. Writing, in its purest essence, is content creation. If you “perfectly” write something that is so boring or disjointed that nobody can follow it, it still won’t succeed. However, if you write something that has good story and flow but has spelling and grammatical errors in it, so long as it can be understood, it can still succeed with a good editor to help you give your solid content a good polish to make it presentable to publishers.

        • Greggory Hall

          Correct, and well said! People like Mike have a knack for telling/writing, even singing….STORIES! People love stories….whether the grammar/spelling or perfect or not! Thanks for being encouraging…..

      • Robert V Frazier

        If you can write, and you love writing, do it! Don’t sweat the spelling. The spell checker will catch most of that, and your proofreaders will catch the rest.

    • Dusk

      I too wanted to be an artists. but I ended up a tradesman with a side of engineer. fortunately, I still love what I’m doing, because I am still creating something extraordinary. and one day, I will still make that though-provoking masterpiece of painting that will go down in history. that will come in time when I start slowing down and finally gain the patience I need to be a master artist.

      • holoh

        “Side of engineer”. You are either a PE or you aren’t – and I’m guessing “aren’t”.

    • EngiNerd

      Sounds just like me. In short, I have a passion for music and was good enough to possibly have a career in it. Along the way I discovered that I was really good at the physical sciences as it came as naturally to me as music. I became an engineer and the rest is history. I still play a little here and there, especially with my kids.

    • krossoverking

      I have no back up plans… If I don’t do what I want I’ll probably die.

      • holoh

        Please do so there will be one less government teat-sucker that I have to support.

    • Geek0id

      Worse. Advice. Ever.

      People will shoot you down, even your friends. They do so because the mean well. Don’t take that risk; go for the sure thing. That don’t want you to take risk.

      Just do it. If you need to have a job on the side while following your passion? then do that.

      The fact that you consider your art a sideline, and not your job might be limiting you in unexpected ways.

  • ArmyMom97

    Awesome response in every detail. Our youngest is a musician in New Orleans with both passion and talent, but he realizes that he needs a profession that will “pay the bills” while he waits for the “break” that may (or may not) ever come. In the meantime, he plays with a local, popular band and makes some spending money on the side. Best of both worlds while he finishes college.

  • BR

    Now many and maybe even most reading this may feel its impossible to talk with God but for those who disbeleive…you’ve simply never found the reason to beleive yet. If you truly seek…you will find! I was talking to God once and He asked: What do you tell your children they can become when they grow up? I gave God the traditional answer …I said: you know what we say Lord…we tell them if they get a good education and apply themselves…they can become anything they want. Of course saying this several scriptures came to mind but the Lord answered quickly. He said: This is selfish ambition. I have told you that I know the plans I have for you…why havent you taught your children to entreat Me about those plans?

    God does say in His Word that He will give us the desires of our hearts. Many and maybe even most of our heart felt desires come from God but He wants us to come to Him with that. He wants us to submit to His will for us and enquire about His Purpose and Plan for our life. Relationship with God leads to an impecable trust…a trust so loving that one would never even want to go in any other direction.

    For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the LORD, ‘plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. (‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29‬:‭11‬ NASB)

    Ask God about this/His plan for you! It is never too late to be graphted in.

  • Susan Fillippeli

    I really like this guy. Such practical wisdom.

  • James

    Common sense lives.

  • DES

    Mike, as usual gives the best “Common Sense” answer there is. Things I had a passion for in my younger days were just that, a passion that I wasn’t suited for. Life is not, nor, will it ever be fair on a regular basis. So, we forge ahead in alternate directions and end up where we are today. I have no regrets because I made my own decisions with no one forcing me to do anything. Never got rich or even well off but, I discovered one thing, I ended up being successful and respected for my work. After all is said and done, knowing you’re a success, for what you have done or are doing, is what really matters. What’s inside your mind, will always show on the outside, so let showing success be your goal.

  • Ernie

    In this politically correct (translation: sugar coat EVERYTHING) world, Mike Rowe’s response was a treasure. We desperately need more people in the public eye who are bluntly honest with their opinions – whether we agree with them or not. It just so happens that I agree with every word.

    • poot

      I thought “politically correct” was a concept that died about fifteen years ago.

      • James

        Not even close! Political Correctness is still half of what’s wrong with our fight against racism, freedom of religion, sexuality, and even our kids in schools.

        I read just this morning that the LGBT community is pushing schools to no longer refer to children with “Ok boys and girls, ” etc. because it is not politically correct to refer to transgender children as such. A school in Nebraska has already adopted this and refers to the children instead as “Purple Penguins”.

        • rutherfs

          Nope.

          http://www.snopes.com/politics/education/purplepenguins.asp

          • James

            Dude I used the name the exact way they did in their handout, don’t “Nope.” me. They’re recommending that teachers use weird, androgenous, non-human terms to address children just to keep the tiny portion of a percent of kids who identify as being transgender from feeling a moment of slight discomfort. I’ve got sad news for you, if you’re starting here, you’ve got a full time job ahead of you the rest of your life protecting them from ever feeling uncomfortable.

            This is political correctness to the point of absurdity to the letter because it has the exact same side effect that most politically correct morons completely miss.

            Just to use the already stated, ridiculous example as an example: the number of people who are blind to the color purple + the number of people who are terrified of, or offended by being called penguins is much higher than children who identify as transgender and are offended by being called “boys and girls”.

            But that’s a stupid example, how about a real one? One of the other recommendations pushed by these people is to, instead of lining children up by gender, instead line them up by “those who prefer bikes” and “those who prefer skateboards”. Now let’s talk about offending children with mental and/or physical deficiencies who were just reminded of this horrible deficiency that will truly hold them back for the rest of their lives.

            Insensitive, thoughtless assholes!

          • rutherfs

            When I posted a link, which took me all of five seconds to locate, which proved that your argument was based on a partial truth (that is, based on a partial misstatement of fact), there were two real possibilities.

            One, you were not honestly aware of the facts of the matter, in which case you should have thanked me for the factual correction, which I provided as a public service at no cost to you.

            Or, two, you intentionally misstated the facts of the matter in order to present a biased and intentionally misleading argument. Which, based on your subsequent reply, is clearly fact.

            You, therefore, don’t have the right to tell me what I can or can’t say to you. If you’re going to be intentionally misleading and disingenuous, then I can and will respond with facts and a correction in whatever form I see fit. Including “nope.”

            Or, actually, I’ve reconsidered. Here’s my new response. I hope you like it: NOPE, mother fucker.

            Try harder next time, “dude.”

          • James

            You couldn’t be more wrong on this. I am not being disingenuous, nor is my argument biased or intentionally misleading. Re-read my original statement.
            The school in Nebraska HAS adopted this system, and teachers are being told to refer to the children as in the case of the example given in their own handout to teachers, is purple penguins. There is nothing disingenuous about this statement, it is absolutely what is happening, even if the individual teachers have chosen a different name for their children than SPECIFICALLY “purple penguins”, the idea, and general message of my statements are exactly what’s happening. Just because snopes.com calls the very specific topic/title of THEIR discussion “partially true” does not mean that my argument is, because I did not intend it the way its described by snopes. I simply used the exact example they used to save time.

            You see how well that worked out, because you decided to use poor debate tactics and pulled one imaginary flaw in my discussion out and blew it up like you didn’t need to address the actual issue which I thought was incredibly clear.

            If you have an actual argument that would convince me to change my mind about my clear stance on this issue, feel free to continue the discourse.

          • Greggory Hall

            Well done… I appreciate good thought provoking debate even if I am not overly thrilled or interested in the subject matter. I think you already know that ypu will not get that level of argument from the “nope” dude…. I digress

          • planetofthemage

            You’re clearly pulling the statement out of context — you make it sound as if teachers are being told to address individual children as such, rather than using more inclusive pronouns for the whole. You can check this article for a less spun version: http://journalstar.com/news/local/education/lps-gender-issues-training-seeks-to-create-welcoming-environment-for/article_444f3b2e-40bf-54aa-8905-6f9597ce3f0b.html

            I think your skateboards/bicycles one is a load of crap because injuries that prevent a child from that kind of activity are going to be fairly physically obvious — and even if they aren’t, parents ought to be informing teachers about this, since teachers will be repsonsible for them during recess, etc. There are still tons of ways to separate children into two groups — the problem is if you dig too deep, you’re going to find a flaw in everything. I for one, am a fan of the gu-to-pa-wakaremasho method that is so popular in Japan. (You can google it — it’s a little hard to explain without having seen.)

            And honestly, you can’t say it _is_ happening without any data — while I would admit that teachers have received materials like this, I’m pretty sure 95% of teachers are simply going to start using less gender specific pronouns to address groups (which is also speculation, but it’s admittedly specualtion, unlike your opinion you offered as fact.)

          • bbypookins

            I’m confused by your adamant objection to rutherfs calling you out on being disingenuous and misleading. To quote your OP,

            “A school in Nebraska has already adopted this and refers to the children instead as “Purple Penguins”.”

            This is not true and therefore you are being disingenuous by stating it as if it were fact. They may have adopted the system of using “weird, androgenous [sic], non-human term(s)”, but they are not using the term “purple penguins.” Therefore, you were wrong.

        • Andrew

          Actually racists, theocrats, and homophobes are the only things “wrong” with the fight against racism, freedom of religion, and sexuality. PC is mildly annoying, at worst.

      • Theresa L Sterling Tucker

        OMG We could only wish that was the case!!! Now days, every single thing that is said in the public eye, MUST BE politically correct. Sometimes I would love to choke someone with the words they write about the need for political correctness.

      • RicoSuaveGuapo

        Are you kidding? Political correctness is more deeply ingrained than ever. For example – say anything negative about Obama, you’re labeled a racist. Say anything negative about a woman, you’re a mysogynist.

  • Jerry Bates

    Wonderful advise. Very well said, indeed. MIKE, you would make a great book author. If only you would follow that passion. Oh, sorry.

  • Big Papi

    Mike Rowe’s comments are dead on. Our society is inundated with motivational speakers and writers who freely dish out “encouraging” platitudes that lead to disillusionment and disappointment on the part of those who hear them. As harsh as it may sound, we need parents, counselors, and mentors who care enough to be honest with young people about their talents and skills, or lack thereof.

  • Joebeaster

    Talent and passion are two completely different things, especially in the workplace. But without passion, there are no dreams and there is a lack of creativity. Talent makes you money, you can have passion, but can you earn a living doing so? Sometimes the truth hurts, but Mike is correct in his assessment and answer.

  • Kim Sheils

    And THIS, is why I love Mike Rowe! Common sense is invaluable. God bless!

  • Richard

    Mike Rowe is the philosopher of common sense.

  • Rogi Ocnorb

    Always seek validation from others that your perception of your talents is based in reality.
    The current crop of deniers is a direct result of the “Everybody’s a winner! mantra taught in public schools.

    • Ulyssezz2

      Public schools? Really? Private schools use the illusion that every child should go to college to make millions from unsuspecting parents whose child is just not cut out for academics. Youth sports programs give out trophies for putting on shoes. Public schools have way too many other issues to deal with. Just another troll comment by a brain-washed hack.

      • Rogi Ocnorb

        Man, that’s some kind of torture, trying to figure out what you meant to say.
        You do know the stats on test and placement scores for both public and private schools. Don’t you?
        Private and homeschooled kids blow the public schooled kids out of the water.

        • Alexander Nicholas

          So private and home schooled kids know how to take a test. What else have they learned? Test taking isn’t the ultimate measure of what kids learn.

          • Rogi Ocnorb

            Sounds like somebody is jealous! If you don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s best to just remain silent.
            There isn’t much they aren’t better at, across the board. Sure, they probably get fewer athletic scholarships; But, them’s the breaks.
            The advanced sense of responsibility they acquire also makes them want to find summer and after-school jobs where the public schoolers just want to have fun.

          • Alexander Nicholas

            Not at all jealous. I’m just skeptical of using testing scores as a measure of anything. That’s what’s led to the current practice of “teaching to the test.” A kid being able to regurgitate information onto a piece of paper doesn’t mean they have learned the material. Further, how long will they hold onto that material? Chances are, once the test’s done, the material’s forgotten.

            Also, what kind of test is given? Multiple guess? Essay? For my money, a kid who is able to write a coherent answer to an essay question demonstrates what he has learned much better than a kid who can correctly fill in circles on a scantron sheet. (In college I got an entire page of a test right simply by guessing.)

            I’m not knocking private schooling or homeschooling. Both can be excellent educational opportunities. Both also have the potential to be poor educational opportunities.

            The same can be said of public education.

            Keep in mind, the numbers for public education include statistics from the poorest schools, where the kids are malnourished, supplies are missing, funds are low, and the buildings are in a horrible state of disrepair. Public schools can’t turn anyone away, unlike private schools. If a student is doing poorly on tests in a private school, that student will be kicked out, to preserve the reputation of the public school.

            What happens to the test score numbers if you only use data from public schools in the wealthiest neighborhoods? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the numbers shoot up, and become more comparable to those of private schools.

          • Rogi Ocnorb

            Multiple choice, essay, whatever.
            I’ll put any of my kids up against the average public schooled kid and it’s not even a contest.
            if testing is removed as the metric for success, you only have college placement and jobs as a gauge for success.
            Again, the Charter, private and homeschooled kids thrive in comparison.
            Don’t get me wrong. I understand your points. There are a few instances where the parent(s) weren’t capable of fulfilling the role of educator. There’s so much monitoring of the programs, that is rarely a condition which is allowed to continue for long.
            Public schools do operate at a distinct disadvantage.
            We keep finding new ways to pour money into them in an attempt to get it to the classroom and it inevitably gets siphoned off at the administration tier where new ‘jobs’ are always being created for teachers who are tired of teaching.
            I took on a contract gig, several years ago (Before NCLB) where I created analysis tools for all the districts in the country and was given access to all the reporting data created by the various administrators. The record for duplicity was six people doing the EXACT same work. I’m sure it’s gotten nothing but worse in the interim.

        • Wesley Elsberry

          Private schools also get to admit the students they want. I recall an article gushing over the enviable stat that a certain high school had of having 98% of their graduates attend college. Elsewhere in the article, they also mentioned that they only accepted something like the top 2% of applicants. The article’s author, though, failed to put those two facts together to come up with the efficient explanation: “selection bias”. It’s just a bit too pat to simply say that private schools are better than public schools. I certainly appreciate the education I received in private middle and high schools. But it wasn’t as if the public elementary school I attended was a lesser source of training. The selective high school I mentioned would have been far, far more impressive if they accepted anybody and then ended up with 98% of their graduates admitted to college. If you start from a pool of the top 2%, you darn well better have a stunning proportion of them go on to college.

          • Rogi Ocnorb

            The charter school my kids attend(ed) has a policy of accepting first, the siblings of existing students. So, a few years down the road, it’s nearly the same as saying they accept anybody. More years than not, 100% of their students go on to college (a senior class is usually about forty kids). One of my wife’s best friend’s daughter decided after attending junior high at that school that she would transfer to the public high school where she graduated as the valedictorian in a class of just under 500 students. Another of my wife’s best friends homeschooled all of their kids through high school. Her oldest is currently attending Stanford on a full scholarship and is a paid intern at Intel any time his schedule allows him to work for them.

          • Wesley Elsberry

            It is simple to test your assertion. One takes the student assessments of the population attending the charter school, and the student assessments of those attending the public school, then looks for any statistically significant difference. Let me know when you analyze the data, which test you used, the test statistic result, and the p-value.

          • Rogi Ocnorb

            No need to be pedantic.
            While I did, at one time have access to the scores for all students across the country, that was a short-term gig. The charter in question isn’t included in the API ratings I find, online. One of the county public facilities is missing, as well.
            All I can go with are the various components I do see in the day-to-day lives of the kids I’m talking about and how they turn out compared to the kids from the public schools.
            The biggest factor in favor of the charter kids is teachers who have made the conscious choice to be there for them.

            Edit: I found their API:
            938 for the Jr. High program and 860 for the High School program, last year.
            Most of the other schools in the area are in the mid 800s for Jr. High and high 700s for High School.

  • Denise Patterson Towe

    Spot on!

  • Libia Patino Ospitia

    Your comments are heartfelt and down to earth. It seems that lately there is a lot of wisdom going around but there are no absolute truths and you try to stay true to that. I just heard this talk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyuZWDX55mI

  • Jack

    Spot on. Growing up on a farm, I wanted to be a farmer, but there was this thing about getting started, money. My Dad was a Share Cropper, with an 8th grade education, so money was very short. I thought, I’ll work my way through college, saw it was going to take to long. Joined the U. S. Air Force, (worked in electronics and communication), so I could use the G.I. Bill to help pay for my college education. I came with in a tic of becoming a lifer. I applied to Auburn University, was accepted, and received an early out of the USAF, because of the Auburn University acceptance letter. Graduated in June of 1972, with a degree in Agricultural Education. Was hired at a very small rural school, in August of 1972, and just retired after 42 years, all at the same school, where I started. Worked with farmers, kids and their farming projects related with agriculture, many kids are now leaders in agricultural on the state and national level. It became my passion with a slightly different direction, but it was still in AGRICULTURE. I loved it but miss my kids and related activities!

    • Damon Stahl

      War eagle

      • Dennis Robison

        this isn’t a sports page

        • Kim Mcmillan

          You are ridiculous. Damon was just paying homage to Auburn University. Get a life, live a little.

          • Kerry O’Brien

            I forget that there are actually academic classes at Auburn.

    • David Christie

      Thank you for your service to our country in the Air Force and in education.

    • Greggory Hall

      You, Sir…are one of MANY (but, of late…I fear not enough) in this country who have made up the strong fabric of our nation, and I applaud you and the many others with this type of wisdom and stick-tuitiveness. Congratulations and thank you for your life and service.

  • compustrat

    Over the years Ive learned to find something to be passionate about. For me right now that is my weekends lounging on the couch and watching Netflix. Was it Buddha that said something about unmet wants are source of unhappiness? Get rid of unmet wants by wanting what you already have or letting them go. Only a tiny portion of our wants are realistically attainable.

  • Billy Williams

    Love the responce Mike if the person doesn’t get the point, then shame on him or her. Great job. I love the Dirty Jobs program so much that I’ve been watching reruns everyday.

  • Justsaying

    I tell the youth in my life, “passion is for your hobbies, investment in time/education must be in a field you like that pays well and is in demand”

    • Jeff Snarr

      As a clinical psychologist and a college professor, I have many opportunities to advise people too, and I do so similarly. I tell them that few are good at and can actually get paid for what they love to do. If they can do so, more power to them, but better to be cautious. Find a career that you DON’T HATE and that pays the bills, and pursue your passions in your free time. If you start to get paid enough for what you love, change careers.

  • CommonSense4America

    I followed my passion,,,then I got arrested for stalking.

    In all honesty, I had a passion for flying. Everyone kept telling me that I couldn’t do it unless, add whatever reasons you want, I followed their advice. Long story short, at the age of 45 I became a flight instructor and then worked my way up to retiring as an international Gulfstream 550 pilot. I have been very blessed for following my passions.

    • Dennis Robison

      stalking from overhead…brilliant

  • soljerblue

    Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry nailed it best when he said “A man’s got to know his limitations.” And before you jump — women included, but I wasn’t gonna screw up a great line just to be p/c.

    • Renee Kazmar

      You did the right thing, dude. Never mess up a quote. That’s sacrilegious. :-)

      • soljerblue

        Maybe not sacreligious, but certainly unethical, and stupid. Kinda like what they’ve done with Presbyterian hymnals — neutered God. Screw that.

    • Katherine Laine

      No, you got it right – women don’t have limitations. :)

      • soljerblue

        None they’ll admit to, maybe. But — :-))))

  • Mike Oakley

    Mike Rowe gives the most thoughtful, down to earth responses I have read. This was well thought out and probably should be required reading for every graduating senior in American high schools.

    • Sid Hale

      I fear that might already be too late…

      • Renee Kazmar

        Good point. It should be required reading for every 9th grader entering high school, then repeated every year until they graduate.

    • Don Meaker

      The current problem with vocational education is it prepares students to compete with illegal aliens, not a path to prosperity. If we solved our illegal alien problem, it could be a good idea, but not until then.

  • Tom Recker

    Thank you, Mr. Rowe. Too many Disney-type movies have convinced people to follow their dreams and the world will bend to their will. False hopes and lofty dreams have blinded too many people to the stark reality which is this; you have to make a living to survive. We should be so fortunate as to live in the veritable paradise that is modern day America, where many dreams are within reach. However, it doesn’t mean one should abandon reality to pursue fruitless endeavors. I like the idea that someone can be happy doing just about anything as long as it agrees with who they are as a person and they find an appreciation for what they are accomplishing with their life.

  • Dismas MagFhionnghaile

    Dead Fucking On.

  • Sillysally

    Loved it but my attention wondered after 3 paragraphs. I am just not passionate about reading!

  • Bama Bill

    I was a perfectionist, drove myself and others nuts. I went to school using the G.I. bill to become a computer programmer back in the 60’s when IBM’s 1404 had just come out. I became a very successful analyst/project leader. NOT because it was my passion, but because I was very analytical, and and asked lots of questions. My OJT taught me to ask the right questions, and then go find the answers that were correct. Don’t forget to ask “Internal Auditing”, Legal Dept., etc. It was a thrilling and very challenging profession. With tons of responsibility. And many 30 hour work days. But I succeeded. You have to work very hard, smart, and always remember, “You don’t know all the questions”, so “You sure as hell don’t have all the answers”! People were always comfortable asking questions, since I didn’t act like I knew all the answers. You just have to find out what you are good at! But that requires “Going to work”!

  • Wayne Nix

    Trades = laid off half the year.

  • Jan Cobb

    Well said Mike Rowe!!!!

  • Howard J. Barnett

    Everytime I want to automatically dismiss Mr. Rowe as “tv guy” I see something like this. My kid has been following her passion by sampling different activities like marching band. We encourage her to do so, while making her aware of the harsh realities of life, something missing in my childhood. She’s also learning that some of her passions can be out of reach to her personally, and what sort of limits she needs to set before moving on. Excellent piece.

    • Keith Weinberg

      I think you’re correct about most TV personalities- almost all, in fact. We are lucky that Mike Rowe got some exposure, as well. He is well beyond his peers in wisdom and his ability to express it.

  • teresama

    Amen!

  • 49_67_71_77

    Great advice! My husband knows an actor who really wants to teach acting classes in college. He acts to make enough to take care of his family later because he knows teaching does not pay as much.

  • Ian Deal

    Your first job is to take care of yourself. It may take years to become an electrician, MD, business owner, or engineer, but that is time invested in the goal of paying your bills and having enough money to do the things that are important to you like get married and have kids. Too many people pursue their passion as a profession instead of separating those two endeavors. I know a young woman who has racked up $300 K in education costs in vocal performance. She is waiting tables hoping for a break. She started off studying medicine until someone told her to follow her passion.

  • D to tha damn G

    Mike, you have such an eloquent means of operandi when voicing your opinions which are typically well received. May God continue to bless you and by all means,,,, stay dirty pimp!

  • Bama59

    Wonderful response from Mike. Great advice from his Grandfather to get a different kind of tool box. Find the thing that you are truly good at AND have a passion for and you will never WORK another day in your life.

  • Schilling Nechtman

    Roll tide

  • Heather McLean

    Rowe for President

  • Richard Clark

    Brilliant!

  • alclegal

    Entirely correct, Mr. Rowe. For 20+ years I fought my own talents to pursue my passion for which I had NO talent and could never accomplish.

  • Scott Pike

    MIke is so right. He is a true role model.

  • Chuck

    Mike would you just do us all a favor and run for President.

  • Revival Life

    Love it. Brilliant, truthful, and wise.

  • Mike Smyth

    Beautifully put!!

  • Roger Stewart

    Mike makes a lot of sense – Good common sense!

  • Kevin Salzman

    Extremely well said, Mr. Rowe!!!

  • Melinda Angel

    Brilliant. Thank you, Mike Rowe!

  • The Sanity Inspector

    More young people should hear this message. Also parents of young people, who keep prodding their children into pursuing ruinously expensive college degrees of dubious value.

  • PeterDaScriptGuy

    I like how those who have achieved their dreams like Mike has (he’s practically on every commercial) are telling us not to pursue our dreams. He’s basically saying, “I made it this far in life, I’m rich and famous, but oh, wait, no, you should clean submarines.” Shut up Mike. To everyone out there; follow your dreams and don’t listen to any doubters and naysayers!

    • Deborah Adams

      Did you read what he said? His dream was not to be rich and famous. He wanted to be a tradesman, but didn’t have the kind of talent it was going to take to be successful in that career. He traded his passion for something that was more realistic for him and years down the road he’s rich and famous. If he had followed his passion he may have missed out on what has turned into a great career.

    • Ken Marlo

      You ehmmmmm …. you didn’t read this article.

    • Kita

      Did you even read his response? His dream was to become a tradesman. He eventually realized he wasn’t any good at it and it crushed him so he had to carve out a different path in life. Being on television was never his dream or his passion, but what he was passionate about was never going to pay his bills or put food on his table. You should probably read before you comment.

  • Andrea Shaw Cheesman

    Wise man! I’m enjoying the responses I’m reading and thrilled to see that there are still realistic people out there!

  • sludgemonkey

    Dead freaking on.

  • moresnare1970

    Wow, that was awesome… A very eloquent response from Mike…

  • Kitti McConnell

    The advice I’ve heard is to do what you cannot live without. In other words, if your passion is so great that without doing that thing, you begin to die, then follow that passion. Many successful artists and entrepreneurs fit this description.

    For most of us, only eating, sleeping and continuing to live reach that height.

  • Kevin

    I completely agree. It’s great to finally start seeing people question this platitude.

  • Melanie Wallert

    Makes perfect sense to me!

  • Jennifer Land

    Along the same lines, one never aspires to be a step-parent, or a second spouse, but both roles have been quite fulfilling for me.

  • Lewis Burwell

    Well said! I love that he didn’t just burst the guy’s bubble, but offered a well thought out, cleverly written response that is truly worth reading. Sage advice for sure.

  • Landon Nunnery

    Wise words

  • SuzieB

    I like Rowe now more than ever! I’m a realist, too.

  • Gordon Giffin

    I absolutely loved reading every word of this Mike. They are wise words indeed. I have dreamt all of my life of being a professional musician and have come close to it a number of times. However that dream of making music my one and only source of income has eluded me over the course of my life. Now at 52 years old I still pursue music but I have turned my passion into a hobby. I still enjoy playing and I still enjoy listening to live music, and unfortunately there is no longer the support for live music now that there was when I was in my twenties. I have followed my dreams, but I have now flavored them with a sense of reality.

  • Lauren Demko

    This is possibly the best piece of advice I have heard in a very long time. I’m a huge proponent of being passionate, but not at the detriment of yourself. I always though I would be a vet – went to college pre-med, and aced every bio class I took. But being a mathtard, chemistry and physics were absolutely impossible for me. No matter how many tutoring sessions I had, I came home from each of those classes crying. I finally decided it wasn’t worth it to live under such intense stress at the expense of the rest of my life and changed majors. I continued to follow my passion for animals by volunteering at the zoo and becoming an environmental filmmaker. In fact, I went to grad school for that course of study, incurring over $100,000 in graduate school loans and found I was very good at it. What I was not good at, however, was the politics of that industry. I might have been very good at making films, but I wasn’t good at getting out of entry level positions with companies. I was working 80, 90 hours a week for what ended up being less than minimum wage if you turned my salary into its hourly equivalent, and I wasn’t getting promoted over the “cool kids”. After a decade of trying to make it work, I finally switched careers into marketing. I’m working 40 hour weeks, making more money, have less stress and am so much happier than I ever was. I continue to work with animals by volunteering at the shelter and taking care of my own pets, I spend time in nature by hiking and camping, and I’m perfectly okay with myself. I’m not the oscar winning documentarian I thought I would be, but I’m happy, and that’s what’s most important.

  • Alan J Krawitz

    Ditto! I could go on about how true Mike’s response is, but it’s not necessary. As Clint Eastwood said in one of his famous Dirty Harry flicks, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” That’s also true. And ultimately, knowing that can help a person find a path that will be successful–with or without their “passion.”

  • Garrett Pletan

    Bulls eye mike. Too many chiefs and not enough braves in this world. If the world was more willing todo what it takes instead if doing what they want the world would be a lit better off. Great story

  • Jessica Smith

    Hey Mike, I think what you said was amazing, my problem is I want to be so many different things. I wanted to be an oceanographer so bad when I was younger. Then I wanted to own my own restaurant, I wanted to be a nurse I settled for a medical assistant which I work for the US coast guard so that’s a plus, but I don’t want to stop there, because now I want to work for the CDC. So what advise would you give some one like me ?

    • Ken Marlo

      Try ’em all out. What clicks now may change and something else will click down the line. I’m the same way. Folks tell me it’s a Libra thing (if you’re into that). Seems we’re passionate about just about everything! :-)

  • muffinman

    loved it

  • Brett Vinson Minor

    Mike when are you going to run for president? We need a leader like you!

  • Amanda Smith King

    I am going to share this with my high school students. I have tried so many times to explain to them that not everyone can be a professional athlete or a movie star or a neurosurgeon! Maybe they will get it when they read this!

  • Hot Rod Hal

    My advice is to follow your dream until you find something you really like to do, and then, learn how to make money doing it. Mike is right that few people reach their original aspiration. When you are young, maybe you really don’t know what you want to do. That’s when it’s important to find something you like and do that. Do that until something else fuels your passion more. Maybe you’ll never be rich, but you will have had an interesting, fulfilling life.

  • jadedkate

    Love it. I too am amazed by how many people go on American Idol, aren’t awful singers but aren’t great either and are crushed by the honest appraisal/rejection of their singing – “but my mom said I have true talent!”. Even worse are the ones who reject the opinions of the judges and vow to follow their dreams of success & stardom when they don’t sing any better than the average old lady in a church choir. Also reminds me of a relative who got a self-tailored degree in dance (a university that didn’t actually offer degrees in dance but was happy to take her money) then couldn’t find a job because guess what, she wasn’t much of a dancer. She went on to pursue a second degree in History because that was her second “passion”. I asked her if she planned to teach History – “Oh no!” she said in shock, “I would never teach”. Turns out she didn’t have an actual job in mind, she just looooves History. Mike Rowe is very wise concerning this subject.

  • Ellen Smyth

    This is a beautiful response; however, “follow your passion” doesn’t mean to everyone what it means to Mike. “Follow your passion” does not mean “follow your passion and forsake everything else, especially common sense and practicality,” just as “be practical” doesn’t mean “never enjoy what you do.” Both practicality and passion are beautiful things and need not be mutually exclusive. The wisest will balance both.

  • Med Smith

    Makes Sense, not all of us will be able to do what we really want to do and have to accept that we are most likely better at something else. And I dont need to go on American Idol to know that I suck at singing, my friends and family do.that for me lol. And the people I keep.around me are.my best success stories

  • svede

    Absolutely dead on

  • publius327

    Irrespective of agreeing or disagreeing with this, I LOVE that he’s willing to challenge prevailing “wisdom.” If it’s rooted in reason and provokes thought, it’s aces in my book.

  • Mike Ellenwood

    Very insightful. When I follow my passion and realize that it’s not something would be career worthy, I simply carry on and call it a hobby. Then, I have no expectations beyond my limitations, and I can remain content with simply giving it my all while not having to please anyone other than myself.

  • Mike Ellenwood

    In other words, when dreams have little chance of becoming reality, and there is no purpose in finding fault, it’s time to wake up and smell the coffee.

  • ken

    Excellent response mike…

  • R Lee Lester Jr

    I am reminded of the poster labeled “STUPIDITY” by Despair.com….the people who make the antithesis of the motivational posters….The one labeled STUPIDITY says, “Winners never quit. Quitters never win. And those who never win and never quit are stupid.”

  • Scott Henstrand

    As a teacher, this is a great piece of advice and will use in my advisory to generate a discussion. Thanks so much

  • Bob Shuttleworth

    I have found Mike Rowe to be one of the most honest and real celebrities that I have ever known or met. What “Mike” says about “Follow Your Passion” is true, because we never know where life will ultimately lead us. That doesn’t mean that one shouldn’t have a passion, or shouldn’t look into it as a career path, but do so only in the knowledge that few ever wind up at the end of the same road that they started out on.

    I wanted to be a Musician, then went into theater followed by the Marines and Viet Nam, then on to Low Pay technical theater jobs, then back to college to finish the degree, Short term theater jobs, then a decade and a half in Retail management followed by writing, designing and editing publications for a world-class evangelist. then – nothing. Two years an hundreds of job applications and I was forced to take a Social Security retirement check. Then I found a small school that needed a scenic designer. Been an on again off again designer and scene shop instructor for going on three years. I found my passion, but have found it by sharing it with others rather than living it myself. Strange how life sometimes works that way, isn’t it?

  • Jody Hurt

    Great sound advice!! My response to my children was to do what made them happy, but be the best they could be at what ever they chose!!

  • Jody Hurt

    A job doesn’t necessarily have to be your passion, but your hobby could be!!!

  • robert

    Mike Rowe for President! Honestl and well stated. We need that leading us

  • Hans Pcguy

    I am from the older generation. I was unaware that the useless and flippant advise like “follow your passion” was actually being seriously considered by people. Obviously there is a place for that advise in the circumstance where someone needs encouragement over a hurdle to a reasonable goal. This article has opened my eyes to yet another grand folly of our new liberal generation. Thanks Mike for taking the time to sort it out for people. Keep up the good work. You are like an ambassador for the old days when people could reason and valued common sense.

  • Tim Anderson

    Perhaps a better way to put it would be have multiple dreams (passions) in case one doesn’t work out? Mike’s “American Idol” analogy is perfect…I would put this in the category of easily defined dreams, come on, you know whether you can hold a tune or not. But some dreams are longer in quest. I’ve been selling tie-dye t-shirts for 24 years…but my dream is get my writing published. I have 4 novel length finished projects on my computer, and a bunch of short stories, I’ve tried getting published but the rejection letters don’t really tell me whether or not I can write…they just keep coming without any feedback. When someone says to me, “You really are a great writer” or “This is awful you should really move on” then I will, but until then I’m keeping hope alive.

  • Jeremy Lawson

    i think if he built the sconce hes probably able to build stuff just not good at art or design
    he obviously can build and is capable just not skilled with the beauty or form

  • Jeremy Lawson

    also your work isnt your god. Your skill and talents are yours by genetics thats why drugs, and other things that hinder your ability are stupid, your damaging your own ability to earn and produce for youself and others. your skills might be some people just have physical limitations. and are not given a talent I think this is good advice the wise man king soloman said faithful are the wounds of a friend and to tell someone they are good at something only sets them up for failure. my son is talented and gifted in hand eye coordination sports building and agile, artistic he is not. and again its not all of life its just how you earn your wage, and buy your beans.

  • Donald Mathis

    Spot on and I could listen to that man’s wisdom all day long! You Knocked It Out Of The Park With That One Mike!!!1

  • relyonChrist

    good ole common sense, as we say in the South

  • CarlMN

    The confusion about this arises because few know what “follow your passion” really means – including Mike Rowe, apparently. Few are aware of what their real passion is. Most folks dream of or go after things that are inappropriate for them, often because, as Mike Rowe found while trying to become “handy” at doing things, they’re not good at what they’re trying to accomplish or gain. And often people are attracted to something that is exactly what they should avoid. It can, unfortunately, get complicated and confusing.

    To be truly passionate about something means to have a deeply heart-felt need to develop and share some innate gift that will serve one’s own needs – not desires, needs – and also contribute something of value in the world, something to help make the world a better place. This also relates to what some would call their soul’s desire, meaning something far deeper than what their personality/ego desires.

    In order to learn what that is, one needs to learn to listen to one’s heart, which is something few know how to do. People are driven by their emotions, which are mostly predicated upon their fears, but emotions are not representative of heart-felt desires, which are based in Love rather than in fear. Meditation of some sort can help reveal one’s true passion.

    “Follow your bliss” is a similarly misunderstood catch phrase which means essentially the same as “follow your passion” – they both speak to an inner heart-felt calling that must be answered and responded to for a person to begin to feel a sense of fulfillment and completeness in life. Following your true passion can bring you true bliss.

    There’s another side to this, too. One can learn to become passionate, to really want to do well at anything one *has* to do. Simplistically, it’s a matter of attitude adjustment, but there’s more to it than that. But doing just about anything especially well can become very rewarding and fulfilling.

    To say more of real meaning on this whole topic, though, requires much more time, effort and space than I’m going to get into here here …

    • Joosey

      perfectly put. thank you.

  • natman2939

    the most important questions he asked he didn’t really answer: “For How long, and to what end?”
    Some people get good at stuff very quickly, some take a long long time, but if they had a moment like this guy had with his grandad, the latter folks may have neve gotten there.
    I, for example am a 28 year old filmmaker. I didn’t bother going to college or doing more than a part time job and living at poverty level just so I could pursue it. Using Mike’s logic, I probably should’ve given up a while ago. But now I’ve got my first series in production and my videographer business is taking off.
    Had I given up even last year, I’d have done it all for nothing instead of working the entire 12 years to finally get to this point.

  • Pamela Long

    My dream was to learn to speak several languages and work for the State Department. That was the 70s. In the early 80s my son came along, and I had to make a different choice. I pursued a Masters (BA Auburn 1977 and MA Auburn 1981) and then a PhD (Tulane 1990) so that I could become a language professor and a mom with a flexible schedule. Can’t say teaching was my “passion,” but it makes a great career for a mom. So I think my life is infinitely better for NOT pursuing that passion.
    Thanks for telling it straight, Mike!

  • Lee Rowan

    I’d like to know what those “millions of good jobs” are that he says are available, because there are millions of unemployed Americans who would take them. My own path..? A little of both. I did office work, went to night school, got a massotherapy license, and started my own practice – and then I had time to write and then I got published, which was my original goal. If I had not always wanted to be a writer, I’d have given up. But sometimes the road has detours.

    Okay Mike — WHERE are those jobs?

    • Landon Parks

      Amazon Warehouse pays $12/hr and has called me 3 times a day for the past 2 weeks trying to get me to come in for an interview for a job, all from putting in an application online. According to them, they have ‘thousands’ of local, full time positions available.

      Not saying jobs are plentiful, or that Amazon is really a ‘good’ job, but $12 an hour isn’t bad either. Not to mention on my way home from work everyday I pass yard signs and windows signs in businesses, from restaurants to retailers, ‘NOW HIRING!’.

      Jobs are NOT in as short demand as many want to beleive. Peoples DREAM JOB’s may be in short demand, and I think that is why the unemployment rate is so high.

      “I’m too good to work at McDonalds… I want to be an Accounting…”.

      • Mark Scott

        The sad part is that people consider $12 an hour not bad. That is $24,960 a year if a person works 40 hours a week for all 52 weeks of the year. That is not a living wage in most places in America and barely living in the rest of the country. At what point did living in poverty become considered good?

        • John Tessalee

          what’s your standards for poverty?

          Someone who can eat three filling meals a day, drive a car to work, pay for a roof over their head, and have plenty time left over to rest and spend with loved ones?
          Or is your definition the lack of all the above? Your lack of perspective on life that others like Mike Rowe have on life is a poverty.

        • Guest

          It would be a good job for someone like me. I’m a SAHM for now but eventually I’d like to go back to work. My income will never be the main income for our family, since my husband does a great job providing for us.

      • Steve Sheldon

        So why haven’t you taken the job?

  • Rob Stout

    Great response, and very intelligently written. I always hear “Just do it, and it’ll work out!” Then the person doesn’t succeed because there is no constructive, real criticism these days.

    The only thing I would add is “be good at more than one thing.” My first love is electronics, but I wouldn’t have gotten off of the ground if it wasn’t for being willing to get in the pit as a grease monkey/mechanic.

  • JC

    I have no idea if this is “good” advice, but it definitely lines up with where I am in life. It feels like Mike’s advice that comes from a place of wisdom – the result of a I life well-lived, not from a place of bitterness and unrealized dreams.

  • joshhayes

    I would like to shake Mike Rowe’s hand, one day.

  • Brian MacDonald

    Mike has said it like it truly is…..very well stated!!

  • Jonathan Nichols

    I admire the humility in his response. Thank you, Mike Rowe.

  • Heather LeAnn Moon

    Have to admit that this message hit me somewhere in the middle. In some ways, what he says is very true but in others it doesn’t set well. I guess the only reason it doesn’t is because I’m a teacher’s kid and have volunteered and worked with kids ever since middle school. For children you have to nurture their passions and allow them to dream big regardless of their abilities. You never know what the child could grow up to be. Some of course have unrealistic expectations; however, why crush their spirit at such a young age? For college students, it’s one thing to be realistic but it’s completely different for children.The area in which I live too often provides children with the difficult dose of reality, parents with drug habits, parents not motivated and riding unemployment, etc. Just because a child is suppressed by their living environment doesn’t mean that I too have to shatter what little hope they have left in the world. Granted they very well may not make a ‘pop star’ or ‘doctor’ because they are not equipped with the skills they need. It is better to encourage and nurture than destroy. We never know what they may overcome with the knowledge that we believe in them and their abilities or potential worth. That said, no, a student just graduated should not pursue his love or ‘passion’ of cooking if they can’t boil water. Ultimately I think you have to have a passion or love of what you do to succeed. No one needs to work with the public if they hate people. Kids evolve and change and adapt. Who’s to say that something they aren’t good at now but have a passion for, won’t be something they grow into. So saying that celebrities and ‘pop stars’ shouldn’t say ‘follow your dreams’ or ‘follow your passions’ isn’t a fair statement. Sometimes the people on television are the most influential presence that these children have because the parents or guardians just don’t care. Ultimately I think this is a double edged sword and that we have to look at the area, age, and circumstances before we ultimately shatter anything for someone. The world when Mike was a teenager and the world as it is today are two ultimately different places, just like each circumstance and even area effect a person and mold them.

    P.S.: Mike if you have the acceptance speeches then why even bother watching the show?

  • atifghaffar

    Reminds me of the poster I had long ago.. “Quitters never win, winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.” http://www.despair.com/stupidity.html

  • Guest

    Thank you, sir, for putting into words what I’ve been trying to say all along about these people who suck on American Idol tryouts. The only redeeming entertainment value of such a ridiculous television program are the absolutely incredulous reactions to the words “No”, ” You can’t sing”, and “Go find something else to do.” I refused to watch the show in the beginning and beyond, until recently in the last three or four years. Like I said, it borders on furious frustration for me to witness the complete and utter surprise on the faces of these contestants at being told by strangers what they’ve so obviously been spared by the ones closest to them that there is no, never was any, never gonna be any talent in this chosen vocation. I have asked the question so many times…how can mothers, fathers, best friends, husbands and wives be so cruel as to not be completely honest and continually allow these people to make such fools of themselves? In my mind, it absolutely does go back to exactly what you are saying. There’s a trophy waiting for everyone, all you have to do is show up. Hogwash. Then I change the channel to “Dirty Jobs” and find real entertainment. Thanks, Mr. Rowe. Please run for President. War Eagle~

  • John Burke

    I still love Dirty Jobs because of the honest projection Mike had. I didn’t realize he was as genuine off screen until a couple of year ago after listening to some of his interviews and reading his Web site.

    I try hard to help my kids find the right path for their life’s success… not mine. Role models with a sound message; we need more of.

  • Guest

    My MikeRowe, you sir “hitting the nail right on the head”….passion reached :)

  • LordScott Morse

    Your sir , Mr Rowe “hitting the nail right on the head”….passion reached :)

  • Perspective

    Superb.

  • Jim

    Genius.

  • DAVID

    Wowzer wow wow. Thanks MIKE, NOT FOR ME ,BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE YET TO COME.

  • Todd Menzing

    You know, I have to say, I think Rowe is onto something here. I won’t
    even go into some of my nearly daily experiences with passionate
    students who have definite limitations. Rather, I will just stick with
    what I know best, myself. I remember thinking I would like to be a
    paramedic. I took all of the courses: microbiology, chemistry, anatomy,
    physiology and of course, the EMT regimen — the works. The frank fact
    of the matter was, however, I was not very “good” at it. If
    I became a paramedic, since I would not be very good, I would not only
    be letting myself down but also the patients I came into contact with.
    So, against the advice of practically everyone, but most especially my
    father, I ultimately decided to study history. This is where I disagree
    with Mike Rowe. There actually is work for people who study seemingly
    useless subjects like history and French literature — good work,
    important work. My dad used to say “what he hell are you going to do
    with a history degree?” I’d respond, “I can do a lot of things, dad. I
    can drive a cab, put up dry-wall, dig ditches — and, I can think about
    shit while I do it.” So, should everyone “follow their passion”?
    Probably not. Should people do what they’re good at? Hell yes. Money
    isn’t everything — in fact, as a motivation, it’s crippling us. Joseph
    Campbell is still right when he said “follow your bliss” — I just
    don’t think we should expect to get paid a lot for it.

  • Zach

    Hey Mike Rowe guess what? I’m gonna follow my passion whether you like it or not. Take that you idiot conservative..

  • Clark Gaither

    THE PERFECT RESPONSE! Best lines – …”passion and persistence – while most often associated with success – are also essential ingredients of futility” and “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.”

  • bud bert

    “What do you think about Rowe’s response? Let us know in the comment section below.”
    Not much.

  • Sunhodonovan

    Finally, a voice with more than platitudes. Action without thought is what gets so many into into trouble. I worked with American craftsmen and artists for many years and saw so many lose their passion when they learned their work and personal expression wasn’t commercial enough to sell. Or they lost their passion and sometimes their homes and savings when they ran into problems that they didn’t consider prior to starting their business. I love the “dirty truth”. I think it’s dirty only because we are finally climbing out of these “false ditches”. Thanks Mike.

  • Elton Hartzler

    Ditto to what Joshua said, below. Too bad Rowe isn’t the one living in the White House. He’s got waaaayyyy more than his share of common sense.

  • Jer A

    As long as its in your reach and you know you have the “it” factor. I say continue to “follow your passion.” Not everyone can be and athlete or professional musician, ect. But if you have what it takes go for it. Examples, Tom Brady, Christy Prior, Grace Potter, ect. You don’t always need to be the best at something but if you have a great work ethic and the potential for talent, follow your passion. I somewhat disagree with this statement. You have to fail a few times to be successful. Most people don’t even know what they want in life, let them take the status quo 9-5 jobs. But for those who do continue to work hard to achieve your goals.

  • Eric Wagner

    I have to say this is very interes:ting. I understand the line of thought and agree that there are easier and maybe better things than pursuing your passion. On the other hand, it may be just the thing that comes out of the heart that makes a business work. You hear of people from time to time who have worked in the jobs that “made sense” because they “made money” yet the person was left miserable and unfulfilled. Then the question that comes up, “is the money really worth it?”. I’ve been in the work force for over 40 years. The last 10 years as a single dad. I felt led to get involved with helping other dads deal with the challenges of single parenthood. There are virtually no organizations in our society that specifically work with single dads. My passion has been to create community with single dads and develop ways to help dads with the various challenges they face. The organization is called “Single Dads United: Standing stronger together”. The idea is to help dads create a more stable environment for their families, to encourage a more cooperative effort raising their children to reduce the stress in both homes. We define a single dad as any man raising children and not living with the mother of those children. Divorced, widowed, never married, remarried and/or empty nester. We’re developing communities of men, and their children, where dads become better dads.
    It is a lot of hard work and frankly doesn’t pay all that well, but the reason is to help dads and their kids who are just getting by financially, physically and emotionally. As one man put it “You’re not just helping men…You’re helping generations!”

  • WordPressWiz

    Yes indeed, those many hundreds of folks who have been told they have a talent by well-meaning parents and friends are dealt a disservice when they discover they are pretty ordinary, or can’t even sing in tune…this applies for anything, I met so many genius level intellects driving taxi cabs and cutting hair it is a crying shame…having a good sense of judgement is more important than passion.

  • Rita Mathsen

    I work with high school kids and what Mike says is true. Far too many kids have been rewarded not because they deserved it, but because no one wants to damage their self esteem. Not showing them the real world, is it? There are TONS of jobs out the but people don’t want to do then because their “dirty” and not glamorous. I worked 3 – 5 part-time jobs when I was younger (till age 31) until I found one great job that paid the bills. Mike is right. Get a reality check and know when it’s time to throw in the towel.

  • Shmang Smith

    great stuff, i read his ‘work smart AND hard’ column too a couple of years ago, smart man…

  • SuzyQue

    A great challenge to the narcissistic cult of “follow my dreams”!

  • James Hepler

    This hits home for me in so many ways. I harbor no shortage of bitterness towards all the entities that I have felt stood in my way as I sacrificed everything I had to make it where it just wasn’t meant to be. Rowe’s words help me refocus my energy and get on the path towards applying my passion in new and beneficial ways.

  • Phil Clowes

    Spot on.

    It also holds true for other such missives. I am dismayed by the calls for (say) cancer sufferers to ‘be positive’ about their fight to overcome the disease.
    There is surely an element of benefit from a positive outlook but all too often, the effect of these calls are to lay the responsibility for the course of the disease on the shoulders of the sufferer. Essentially “you got sick because you didn’t try hard enough/weren’t faithful enough/weren’t passionate enough”

    The bottom line is that in a world where “success” (however the media or popular culture defines it) is so rare, the vast majority of people will fail to achieve it no matter how hard they try, how good they are or how much passion they have for it.

  • Johnny Livernutz

    Best.. Response… Ever…. Mr. Rowe can u b my dad too please!?!

  • marcia bell

    After a long lifetime helping people find jobs, I, too, am amazed at how many lack the skills for the profession they choose. I love the “handyman” show MIke does because it pits him against the odds weekly in a new environment. It also gives us the chance to see, from the comfort of our easy chair, what real work is, and that there is no “easy” job. They pay people to work for a reason. His advice is sound and grounded. What I am proudest of here is that someone from the “Next Generation” read this and saw the wisdom in it, and wanted to share it with his generation, adding to their arsenal when graduating into the world to take their place in forging a future. Hope everyone you know reads it, understands it, and joins the real world we live, love, work and find joy and happiness in.

  • jurban

    Underlying his statement is a clarification of the need to be disciplined in order to be successful. I believe that discipline is a fundamental ingredient towards a successful life and career. Little gets accomplished through sloppiness. And, once along that path, an underlying passion can be made manifest that would have been difficult to see beforehand.

  • Ellen Meng Schmidt

    I surely agree with his response. Passion cannot trump ability!

  • Kristen Fife

    As a recruiter with over a decade of experience hiring people: spot on advice. It took me a long time to find something I am truly good at, drifting from job to job. I have one of those lovely liberal arts degrees…Classical Humanities (study of Greek and Roman cultures). I took classes I loved and was good at, but neglected things like basic business classes. Am I good at my job? One of the best in the city of Seattle. Am I passionate about it? Many parts to it, but my true “passion” is writing. Also something I am working on, but I also know that published authors are lucky to clear $25-30K a year, which is not enough for me to live on, so I fuel my passion with my day job that I am good at and enjoy.

  • Charlie M.

    Common Sense4America-I did more or less the same thing I always wanted to fly and I loved maps. After high school I had no direction. I joined the air force and they trained me to be an aircraft mechanic. When I got out I learned to fly. Long story short, I became a mapping pilot and did that for the next thirty years and loved it. It was not the plan that my parents had for me which at the time was, you need to get a liberal arts education.

  • Kevin Snyder

    Great post!
    Being a professional speaker, I’ve had quite a few people forward me this post since PASSION is what I speak on. I completely agree with Rowe’s practical approach to what I believe is the #1 source of innovation, leadership and most importantly, HAPPINESS — it’s called PASSION. Many people make a ton of money still doing something they don’t enjoy and then they ‘wake up’ one day fully aware of how miserable and depressed they are – I was one of those people.
    * I agree that we need to have awareness about what we’re really good at it. For example, although I LOVE singing and have sung my whole life, I’ve never auditioned for shows like American Idol because I’m aware my ‘talent’ is just not THAT good to be top 10 and potentially win. Since singing is one of my PASSIONS, whether I make American Idol or not, I found a way to incorporate music throughout my keynote presentations … You should always be aware of, and pursue, a way to integrate your PASSION ;))
    * Again – a great post —thanks again for sharing!

    • Desire Inspires

      That is a delusional lie.

      People that make a lot of money don’t ever wake up and say “I am miserable with this life”. They wake up and go out and buy newt things and visit new places. All of the wealthy people that I know are all pretty happy people. They only complain about other people either begging them for money or being jealous of them.

      Wealthy people do not live under the same rules as poor or middle class people. They are not at war with people of lesser means. They are busy working to gain more and enjoying life. All of the “misery” we hear about the rich come from poor and jealous people. How is it that poor people have so much insight into life but cannot get rich?

      Please, stop lying.

  • Trillionaire

    “Don’t follow your passion,” says the millionaire media personality and TV host who is passionate about blue collar jobs.

    • Jake106

      Just….read….the….article.

      BEFORE making a post. Is that too much to ask?

      • Guest

        I did read it. Now run along…

      • Trillionaire

        I…did…read…it.

        DON’T assume I didn’t because I don’t agree.

  • Mark LaPolla

    In the Victorian age and before, parents’ goals were not to make their children happy but rather productive members of society.

  • 3Dunedain90

    Mike Rowe got it right. The “Follow your passion” bromide is something liberals injected into public dialogue as part of their humanistic self-esteem movement that rests on subjectivism and experience-oriented motivation, as if feeling and emotion are adequate to measure quality, norm and wisdom. Here is another unexamined one: “You can do anything you want to do.” Oh, really? The word “want” is another way to say “passion”. Better is this corrective, given and practiced by General Stonewall Jackson, “You can do anything you RESOLVE to do.” That puts honesty and practicality, will and realism, into the equation, because “resolve” uses all facets of one’s faculties and evaluative efforts, and liberates one from dreamy approaches to pursuits where the person’s passion remains unexamined and rather blind.

  • Bryan Hanks

    As my grandfather and father said many times “Son the world needs ditch diggers too!”

  • Eric Van Bezooijen

    A “demotivational” poster from despair.com summed it up best. A picture of a container full of french fries and the text: “POTENTIAL: Not Everyone Gets to be an Astronaut When They Grow Up.”

  • Rick

    What an amazing guy! Passion can be used to either fuel a daydream or supercharge talent and hard work. Good words, Mike!

  • Guy

    If that was enough for you to abandon your dream. He’s right….. I disagree but then again. Not every one is able

  • tazmeah

    I agree with the very end which says, “That’s why I would never advise anyone to ‘follow their passion’ until I understand who they are, what they want, and why they want it.” Which is to say, I’d advise everyone to follow their passion after they realize who they are and what they’re passionate about.

  • pdsnider

    That is awesome! More kids need to hear this instead of the garbage they hear on tv.
    I had a passion to become a veterinarian. Started college, worked for a vet, and started seeing what all would be involved and had the common since to know I would not be able to do it. Thank God I figured it out. Now I’m a college professor, go figure.

  • Renee Kazmar

    That was amazing. I could have used that advice 10 years ago. I’ll share it with my kids when they’re a little older.

  • Bill

    This is amazing. Very well said.

  • Susan Blackman

    Not everybody has a passion they can follow, but you can always follow your curiosity.

  • Blunt Trauma

    I followed mine: HOLD BACK THIS DAY<a

  • Hezekiah Stephan Shabazz

    This would have been good to know a decade ago. THANKS FOR NOTHING, MIKE ROWE. (Also, yes, spot on.)

  • Tim Stroh

    Always liked Mike…like him more now. I’ll be suggesting to the kids that they shoot for the stars. If they make it, awesome. They reach the stars…and if they miss…well…they’ll still reach the moon. Where as if they only shoot for the moon, they may avoid some disappointment, but they’ll never achieve their true potential.

    I’ll also be suggesting they listen for their passion…experiment…enjoy every opportunity to look for it…and if they find it…listen more…definitely keep it with them…feed it…never let it die…but only follow it if they are also being objective, have the demonstrated focus to commit and get better as a result…and have a solid back up plan or are already successful in something they can return to.

  • Allan Peda

    Right, the advice for people overall is often quite different than the advice for one person. One person might make it big, but out of ten thousand, most will not.

  • Thomas P. Haas

    Definitely worth the read.

  • P.a. Mueller

    Yes. Yes, Yes, Yes. Yep.

  • Bruce Aiken

    I totally agree Mike! My “passion” for music as a teenager was overshadowed by the reality that I was better at working with my hands than with my voice or my guitar. I’m glad I figured that out early in life.

  • Jootmo

    Yep!

  • Susan M. Brown

    Right on target Mr. Rowe! You are right to the point and though direct and honest, say things so eloquently. BRAVO!!! I am a tradeswoman {graphic artist/pre-press specialist in offset printing}, and I’m good at it. I plugged away at it and it eventually got me to my dream job {production artist/designer at an ad agency}; and when the recessions hit, printing was there to catch me and fall back on. It was sheer determination and perserverance that kept me driven – not my passion of the dirty reality of the printing industry. I was lucky to be aware to it at a young age so know that I can spend my free time doing what I am passionate about and things my heart truly desires.

  • madscipanda

    I love it! He also has a great TED talk on this very subject. http://www.ted.com/talks/mike_rowe_celebrates_dirty_jobs?language=en I heard it while I was listening to the NPR TED Radio Hour on “Success” http://www.npr.org/2013/10/25/240777690/success

  • Tom Stone

    This is the kind of level thinking we need in Washington….

  • Mark7Seven

    I’m very glad Mr. Rowe got that crushing advice from his Grandfather! Without it lots of folks would be living with crappy trade work and we’d be without a great mind in the realm of common sense and life!

  • Aaron Ritchey

    I’ll be dead soon. What do I want to do with the minutes I have?

  • Craig Adams

    MIKE ROWE FOR PRESIDENT !!!!

  • Smiley

    Probably the best advice I’ve ever received.

  • C.Sadens

    Mike Rowe seems to be an idiot. Ive never watched his show, but if this is
    any indication of how he feels as a person, glad I didnt.

  • Karen Cormier

    Great response. Life takes you on a path of many different directions. Some good, some not so good. We change and so do our directions and a new life begins again.

  • C.Sadens

    Wow, this place is full of brainwashed sheeple, clinging to celebrity gossip like a fly on fresh feces… You all go on and have your dirty jobs.. Ill continue to follow my dreams.

    • Bill Wolf

      Mike Rowe only said you shouldn’t follow your dreams if they are destined to be nightmares.

    • Scott

      My dream is to be a star in the porno industry. I am ugly and nobody enjoys looking at me.. my body isnt very nice, and i have a small penis. I have tried to get an audition at many places.. to no luck.. i will keep trying… one day surely.. maybe they will like me when i age and i am even more ugly. I will just keep reaching for the stars.

  • Andrea Singleton

    I always wanted to be a famous artist. I can sing- I had training, I can dance -I had 12 years of experience and at one point in my life it was my passion, yet I was good not great at it. I grew up my views changed and now I had a passion to help others. The less fortunate. I wanted to to aid the homeless in obtaining employment, finding a home, getting medical and dental work complete to make them feel and look better. This path was not my way; however I do still help the less fortunate, I teach the disabled adults transitioning from high school to beyond high school how to care for themselves, pay their bills, grocery shop for themselves, budget their money, etc. I carried my passion with me into what I do. When I can I stop and purchase food to help out a truly homeless person, to still fulfill my need in helping those people out. Mr. Rowe’s words are beautifully articulate and absolutely on point.

  • camberwell

    well…..brilliant, just brilliant!

  • Jim Sandoval

    Actually reminds me of this video by John Cleese.

    http://youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU

  • Anita Horak

    Very good

  • Scott Weaver

    Quite often “passion” is limited to what you think you know or a limited vision of the world at large. Take time and effort to find out what your really good at.

  • Jessica Lynn Krause

    Never has a more raw honest truth been spoken. Life isn’t easy, you don’t get what you want and nothing is ever guaranteed. It reminds me of “if you want to hear God laugh tell him your plans.” Life is a beautiful disaster. It is as good as you make it or as bad as you make it. I love my job. But, it is by far not what I envisioned for my adult life. But it is fulfilling and it pays the bills. And it pays for my passion.

  • JoeyHendrickson

    He’s bluffing. I wager he’s a very good wood worker at this point in his life. I’ll raise the fact that he can buy the best tools in the world to make his woodworking even better, maybe not the same as his grandfather, but passionate and artisan. In this way, he did follow his passion. He didn’t make it his living wage, but if TV didn’t pay him so much, I bet he could.

  • Jennae

    I believe that Mike is right about everything. You can always become passionate about any job you have, you just have to find one thing you love about it…. That’s how I feel. I’ve held multiple types of jobs from cleaning to desk work. I’ve loved something about every one of the jobs I’ve had and wouldn’t change it for the world. :)

  • Connie England

    He hit the nail on the head, even if he couldn’t before. I’m passionate about writing, but I realize I will never be a best selling one. I worked jobs to pay bills an even liked some. Today I write for enjoyment and if I ever sell anything? The icing on the cake!

  • Hughey Reynolds

    Thoughtful, sensible, practical, truthful advice!

  • Sonny K Johnson

    Perfect response, Mike!

  • susan owens

    Absolutely amazingly on target and beautifully accurate. Please get this reply to students, colleges, unemployed groups and anywhere else to pull us all together to the real successful reality of how “passion” should be placed on our journeys of success. How our young people have been so misled and misguided!
    You are an inspiration to all! Wow!! Thank you!
    Susan Owens
    Grandmother in Alabama

  • Redhead

    That’s why I counsel having a Plan B.

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  • Terry Ramsey Haskins

    Who knew that the guy who plays in garbage and fecal matter for a living is a genius.

  • AirandSpace

    Everything has to be taken in measure and in context. I wanted to fly for a living, and told my dad so when I was a teenager… the time when I should’ve started flying. He told me to redirect my efforts toward something more within my capabilities and forbade me to fly until I graduated from college “as long as I lived under his roof.” I was naive and stupid enough to believe him, that flying was unattainable, until later in years and marriage and kids. I did get several ratings and worked at a municipal struggling to build time hoping to make up for the lost early years. Thing is… I was not a good pilot… I was a great pilot. I begged and bartered time in every plane that landed in at that airport, garnering a reputation of being able to fly anything with wings from speedy homebuilts to corporate turboprops. Problem is, I was getting old and couldn’t build time quick enough. The best I could do was land a salesman job scooting around the country in my little business plane. Now I’m nearing retirement, having struggled aimlessly over 30 years through the corporate world with a lack of true direction and purpose. I didn’t follow my dream. I should have. It was attainable. I should never have listened to my dad… or in this case, Mike.

  • Fiona Hardy

    Goodness! This man is amazing! He’s got it all, in my humble opinion. He has great wit and sensibility along with perseverance and humour. He kinda comes off as an ass, but not a dumb one. If I met him, I could definitely stand to converse with this great mind.

  • Robert Zeurunkl

    How about we elect THIS guy president?

  • kaffers

    Can this guy GET any better?

  • Bill Wolf

    The only thing I would point out is that many of the most successful people including entrepreneurs like Henry Ford failed several times (some totally bankrupted) before hitting on the right mix for success. At what point and who gets to determine when one has reached the limit in the pursuit of those passions. I agree that these cliches make one vomit in your mouth a little.

    But I think the real problem is the sense of entitlement recent prosperous times have created. Nobody has yet adjusted their way of thinking to adjust to the changing economic times. People don’t want to do work that is “beneath” them because they are too hard, too dirty, or don’t pay enough.

    Urbanization leading to suburbanization has created a youth that has been hopelessly disconnected from the roots of hard work, sweat, and the appreciation of getting their hands dirty…Even if it was for peanuts. It gives one a true appreciation for what work really goes into living our daily lives. It gives one a sense of accomplishment and that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to…Even if it was a horrible experience. It also gives one the incentive and determination to work toward something better.

    Maybe it isn’t what you originally set your goal at, but as long as it pays the bills and you do your job well, you have accomplished something worthwhile and the satisfaction is happiness. If you haven’t reached that state in your job, by all means move on to the next job. Instead what I see now is that entitlement leading to idleness and collecting from the government dole on the one end of the spectrum, and a sense that you are owed benefits, pensions, and even a job regardless of performance or productivity on the other.

  • bob mag

    If you can’t be a tree..be a good bush.

  • Keith Werner Padgett

    I don’t fuckin’ care about money and success. I’d rather be happy that I’m doing what I want to do.

  • Michael Lockett

    What happens to the Rich man and the Poor man, the Happy man and the Sad man, the Tall man and the Short man, the White man and the Black man, the Man and the Woman even – when its all said and done? Everyone dies.
    Is it safer to be a “sheeple”? Sure is. But Passion is about enthusiasm and excitement, and, if you get a taste if these two emotions for one aspect of life , it can and will carry over to other aspects of life.

    Mike Rowe advises you “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.” You want to be considered successful, be a “productive member of society”, and get rich cleaning septic tanks?Just remember, regardless of the list of accolades that might be bestowed upon you, at the end of the day you “shoveled shit!”
    Mike Rowe quit. Mike Rowe let his grandfather “advise” away his passion to be a tradesman.
    Although, funnily enough his “passion” didn’t betray him. Mike Rowe now gets rich filming and talking about tradesmen.

  • iRobC

    I’ve seen a few “I’m in a band” or “I’m a singer posts.” The record company cutoff age is around 27, kids. If you’re still trying to make it after 27, you’re no longer seen as marketable. Keep that in mind.

  • Carrie McGehee

    Perfect. Absolutely EVERYONE should read this, especially recent grads.

  • Lee Ann Morrison Hinton

    I love Mike Rowe. He is my crush and a beacon of light. He is spot on, and as a “gifted” kid who was pushed to college and a liberal arts degree, that had to fight to work in my vocational school courses in commercial art- only to find my career a decade out of college in marketing using my vocational skills, I must say I get the “follow your passion” agenda.

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  • poot

    Jerry Lewis used to say that his mother used to ask him when he was going to get a real job.

  • Sandra

    Just be happy. Mike writes this because it makes him feel better about his life.

  • Curtis Tricarico

    My constructs often look like something out of “A Nightmare Before Christmas”. My t-square is a rhombus, my drill press drills at an angle, but I will NEVER give up. LOL

  • Nikki

    “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.” seemed to mean ““move
    on to your skill and keep your passion as a hobby.” He should be saying “find
    your niche, and let your passion guide you to it.”

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  • Tom Kastle

    Interesting…
    Come to think about it, I’ve always followed my passion but without a
    fixed goal (strange for someone with a planning degree). For me, it’s
    another cliche…the journey. I followed my passion to play music and it
    led me to garage bands, folk stages, and operas. I followed my passion
    to be on the water and I found myself in kayaks, canoes, 950s tour
    boats, and tall ships. To live without passion is stagnation and death.
    Me? I’m Serendipity’s slave.

  • FzMonsta .

    Corey Taylor, the lead singer from Slipknot and Stone Sour, has said almost the same exact thing in a speech/interview he did at a Oxford University. While the speech itself was kinda difficult to follow because he kept repeating himself and going in circles the main points were understandable. For a long time he wanted to be a history teacher, that was his life long dream. He discovered one day that even though it was his passion, he sucked at teaching. He knew how to write and sing so he pursued what he was good at even though it was not what he wanted. He believes that the passion and drive came after as a secondary motive. Follow what your are good at with a passion, do not follow the passion of what you like.

    you can find this speech on youtube.

  • Alexander Dickson

    I can’t agree more. I’d like to add that it’s important not to keep yourself from discovering something new that you might end up having a passion for. I am another person who had no idea I had such a passion for welding. All the way up until I first picked up a torch about 5 years ago.

    I could blame that there were no shop classes offered at my high school, but I occupied myself with computers and video games. I had no idea how much fun it is to help create something and how rewarding it is to put my talents to good use. Graduating I’d never have pegged myself working on the factory floor. Yet here I am. I enjoy going to work every night and I now dream about being the best welder possible. Nothing boosts my pride more than when people compliment my work and wish they could do what I have.

  • Peter L Marzullo

    Once again Mike Rowe nails it. “don’t just follow your passion but always bring it with you.” Some of the best advice you could ever give a person especially a young person. While he,mike,is not very old(probably younger than me)he has gained wisdom and insights through his travels and contacts that many of us will never have the chance to again,especially young people today. Keep it up Mike.

  • Mat Chambers

    The school of hard truths…! Its how I plan to bring up my son. I want him to have the chance to try EVERYTHING, but I will also never lie to him, well except about Father Christmas, but then he is only 5…

  • alphadeus

    Make your job your passion..then even if you find you just don’t like it..you were employed and if you try..try..again maybe you’ll fall back into a job you do like…As I did…stone masonry was great..I was covered in ice cold water and breathing stone dust all day long…but I found my calling…then one day an accident took it all away…but better to have loved your job then lost it then never have loved one at all.

  • kreeez

    Mike Rowe is my new hero. WELL SAID!!

  • Dana Lee Pertermann

    Brilliant. Too often we want glib answers that will fit everyone in every situation. Thank you Mike for reminding us that there is no such answer!

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  • Matt_Terry

    As a teacher of wanna-be screenwriters, I always have a collection of writers who think that all they have to do is write one screenplay and the money will pour in. I call it having a “lotto mentality.” I’ve worked at screenwriting for well over 30 years and continue to do it because it feeds my soul (and I’m good at it). Have I sold a script? No. So I have a “bill-paying-job” to pay the bills. I’m passionate but I’m also realistic. One point about Bill Gates, just to clarify, I worked with his father in a high powered law firm in Seattle. Bill was born into wealth and privilege. He had access to money, schools, opportunity that 95% of Americans don’t have access to. That doesn’t cloud his success by any stretch of the imagination, but if he tried and failed, it wasn’t like he’d be sleeping on the streets.

  • Susan Herring

    Great response; I like Mike Rowe!!

  • Mo86

    He is absolutely right.

  • Greg Herz

    Master’s level advice from the Dr. of surviving and excelling in the ‘School of Hard Knocks.’

  • Shelley Cunningham Welch

    Excellent advice… Young people have no idea what it’s like out in the real world!

  • pbird

    Perfect.

  • Alice Marie Holzer Reybitz

    I was once told by an individual in my CLOSE circle that they had no idea how i survived because according to them “I had NO passion.” It got me to thinking…and three wonderful children and a terrific career later…YEP, I have a passion…but it is nothing like I thought my passion would have been 20 years ago. I agree Mike…I have done all those jobs..crop picking, recycle sorting, mail delivery, CNA in nursing homes, animal care (and all the waste that goes with it)…then, I had an opportunity to return to school…OH, did I mention I did all these jobs with a Bachelor’s degree??? anyway…I returned to school, got my nursing degree and now I do what I am passionate about, however, it is not all my passion…..Thanks Mike..I am a forever fan!!

  • Milkshakes

    Refreshing.

  • the suburbs suck

    Mark Cuban has an awesome saying which piggy backs on this. Don’t follow your passion, follow your effort.

  • Kimberly Higgins

    Excellent response.

  • drbsmithmd

    Very well said!

  • Krista Volk

    Absolutely spot on! Another great reason to like Mike Rowe!

  • Lucy Baty

    yes, the voice of reason. .hard to hear, but necessary. oh and where would we be without another person we have historically forgotten.. Nikola Tesla

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    What an amazing response. I knew he was the host of that show that I haven’t watched in years [I’m not much into TV], but he’s just come back into my radar for this thoughtful and honest piece. We need more people like him.

  • Paula Bee

    Loved this! Trust me, been a hairdresser for 30 years, an educator for 20…and sometimes, I literally yank the scissors out of some of their hands…and say step away.

  • umijin

    Spot on.

  • Derrick Amundsen

    I think the real reality is that saying “Follow your passion” is really easy to say when it worked for you (and by all means I hope it does!). But the real truth is, passion / doing what you love, doesn’t work 99.9% of the time.

  • Luigi Vercotti

    Good advice Mr. Rowe!

  • BEAR

    MIKE ROWE FOR PRESIDENT!

  • Kirk Stevens

    This reminds me of a story I read as a child. In the fourth book of Lloyd Alexander’s Chronicles of Prydain, Taran wanders. On his journey, he studies several trades. His final stop is with Anlaw Clayshaper, and there he finds a ‘passion’. One that he, like Mike, didn’t have the capacity for. It was heartbreaking, but it was also a step on the journey to finding his calling. I see nothing wrong with following your passions, but it is also important to do so with a measure of common sense and honesty. Not to mention, if my life is any indication, there’s room in life for more than one passion and a career is not the only way to enjoy that passion. As an American, I feel like we can be a little too career and salary centric in our view of life and living. A whole life is far more than putting in an 8-10 hour day at a job. Mind you, I’m chasing a life that allows me to spend more of my time working at things I’m passionate about than not.

  • mpbnice

    He has to be one of the smartest men in the entertainment industry. I wish he could talk to my son!

  • Timothy Finch

    Amazing, wonderful, and insightful. I think that he should president, seriously.

  • Stan Johnson

    Great advice. Probably the best advice anyone will ever get. Especially the last line, “bring your passion with you”.

  • William Sylvester Keck

    We each have the creativity gene. It is expressed
    differantly in each of us. One person may be an accounting genius and be able to spread a company’s losses over time while another person creates the products that the company is based on. Mike is saying find your niche at what you are good at and make sure it pays the bills rather than letting a dream force you down a path and end up penniless.

  • J.B.

    The biggest message I took from his response is,don’t let yourself be held back or crippled by your passion.. but to learn what your good at and be passionate about your work..

  • Theresa L Sterling Tucker

    I think he is a very wise man and practical.

  • Former Deputy

    Nice. Sometimes the truth hurts!

  • ALISHA HONEYCUTT

    great response …. i think the septic guy had the right idea make money with what your good it doesnt mean you cant pursue what your passionate about as a hobbie .

  • Stealth Statistician

    Some good advice there about needing to temper your ambitions with realism, but he’s completely clueless about what’s wrong with society today. No, the problem with the economy is not that the jobs are there, but people are holding out for something better. There aren’t enough jobs to go around. I don’t know how stupid you have to be to still believe that after going through the worst economic
    calamity since the Great Depression.

  • Torsten Klasen

    Mike you are OK! Keep up the honesty, most people cannot handle it. Cheers you dirty bastard!hahahahah

  • Pat Bosha

    Love this guy! I remember my mom having a “crush” on him when he was a host on QVC, and he’s certainly found “passion” in many other vocations, from an opera singer to “skull cleaner” and all the various dirty jobs he’s taken on. His response shows what an intelligent, well-spoken man he is. Keep up the good (dirty) work Mike!!!

  • Tammie

    Wow, what an immensely intelligent and sensible answer! I think I love you Mike Rowe. At the very least, I am incredibly impressed by your honesty and candor.

  • Laura ZZ

    Huh – I can write very well, with all the spelling and grammar skills. I wish I could afford to get that degree now. My parents told me it was a useless degree, and that all my English skills were pretty worthless compared to math and science. I did transcription for years, but that job has gone away. Without that 4-year degree, doctors are always sure their skills are better than yours. A lot of them don’t even know how to use “nor” correctly! So what I’ve discovered is you have to squash your round peg into a square hole if you were too chicken to get that 4-year degree. You just have to find a job that’s available, a skill that’s needed. Unless you have money to invent something and start new fads or technologies, you just have to do what there is a demand for. Usually it is something other people don’t want to do. It is better to get some sort of 4-year degree. Some jobs, such as government jobs, don’t seem to care what the degree is in. I was just scared because I saw so many people going to school to party and flunking out. I hate to see that kind of waste, and I just didn’t have the guidance I needed to see that I could do it without a functioning math brain.

  • PATTY PUG

    Best advice I’ve heard in a looooong time

  • Michele Lee Brandon

    i cannot say this enough…i adore this man….brilliant response as always.

  • Darryl Mullen

    I agree completely! And, I too have a fascination with American Idol with regard to the stupefying amounts of people who are unaware and incredulous about the fact they have now talent whatsoever in what they are passionate about! It’s amazing. And such is true with the rest of life…

  • Mary Whisler Maxwell

    I LOVE IT! So very true. We look back from a lifelong career in something we never dreamed of doing, and feel like crap because it wasn’t our passion. All because people keep talking about living their dreams. Well, life wasn’t meant to be a dream, at least not for most people. Life is a test, and if we always get what we want, then how can we really be proud of our persistence? As the song goes, “You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you’ll find, you get what you need.”

  • Mary Beaty Williams

    He is right on! Do what you can while developing your passion in your spare time. If you are truly gifted in that area the allotment ratio of time will reverse.

  • sdlawrence

    Either/or is a patently false choice. Why not both in a practical order? That’s why I like the Wright brothers’ model the best. It was self-sustaining. The Wrights followed their passion for building the first heavier-than-air flying machine, but funded it and put food on the table with their bicycle shop. They wanted their avocation to be their vocation, but they always knew the difference between them. It really didn’t matter whether their “Wright Flyer” stayed aloft or not, because their ability to eat and function didn’t depend upon the commercial success of their so-called passion. It was the other way around, in fact, as their passion depended on the stability of something only somewhat related to it. In the end, the Wright brothers were not even commercially successful with the invention that made them legends. They followed their passion with utter sensibility.

  • Rob Braxton

    some of it’s very good, some of it … not suh much.

  • Robert Stanley

    Retired after 40 years of teaching teens and young adults, my experience strongly confirms Mike Rowe’s advice.

  • James

    Seems appropriate.

  • Miriam M. Hughes

    Awesome response!

  • sashe

    I think this is good advise. I don’t think Mike is saying give up on your dreams, but to be realistic and productive in whatever you do until you are able to bring those dreams to fruition. We all dream of bigger and better things but it is a goal that has to be reached. No job is too small if it is done with pride and the hope of achieving more. Too many people quit the race instead of pacing themselves so they can win.

  • Steve

    The Lucky Dog man once told me on Bourbon Street, “Son, you do anything long enough and you get good at it!” But good may not make you happy. Maybe I need to open a clown business called Hot Dog. I’m still trying to match my talent and passion with the right direction. I have learned to make a pretty good hot dog in the meantime.

  • Denese Wong

    I’m not sure what to think of this. I remember a veterinarian who had his office close to where I live, and I took my dog to him—once. It was quickly apparent that he didn’t love animals and he didn’t love being a vet. So why DID he go to all the trouble of becoming one? I can only guess that someone had told him it was the practical thing to do, or family tradition, or some such. He clearly went in a certain direction without following his passion or even dragging it after him. And he was a failure at his job. On the other hand, who’s passion could it be to clean the restrooms at Walmart, but we NEED someone to do that job. I think it’s advisable for everyone who has a job to do his or her best at it, even if they’re looking for something better. For me, the best thing in Rowe’s post is the last sentence: “Passion is too important to be without, but too fickle to be guided by. Which is why I’m more inclined to say, ‘Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.’”

  • Anita Finley

    Passion can be found in jobs that one never imagined, but they have to try a lot of things to really know. It is a very well written article and has so much truth to it. One way to continue with a passion is to get a worthwhile job with a lot of satisfaction if done well; then find a way to also work on something that one feels passion for. Then you can have your cake and eat it too!

  • Leisha Wetzel

    Perfect! You can have all the brains and passion in the world, but you won’t be a doctor if you throw up at the sight of blood.

  • Michael Mahoney

    Thank you. Excellent point

  • Dov Blair Epstein

    At 61, I haven’t figured out what my passion is—too busy trying to make a living…Oh, I make a living fixing stuff , and building stuff.

  • mary

    Totally agree with Mike! Truth is better than blowing smoke.

  • Zechariah Newman

    That last sentence is gold.

  • Jerry James

    Lots of wisdom in those words.

  • Greggory Hall

    Loved it! That’s the type of wisdom that built a country of hard workers….. this country! I do have one time when the “follow your passion” advice is spot on…
    You’ll need a Bible…and you dont have to profess to be a Christian… NOW… read Psalm 37:4 …now, think about it. Here’s a hint: the verse is cyclical….and NEVER FAILS…. if it did, then He isn’t God…
    …….but, HE is! Seriously…try it seriously
    James 1:5 also… if you dare…..
    It’ll blow your mind

  • Ms Myriad

    What a lovely closing line.

  • Dawn Martin

    Mike Rowe is a genius! I love him and this is exactly what I think/feel about how I’m raising my son. I want him to try everything and anything he’s passionate about and even things he may just be curious about but find what he’s actually GOOD at doing, not just what he’s passionate about. I was passionate about becoming an architect. I was actually pretty good, too, but I didn’t pursue it to the bitter end because I wasn’t REALLY good at it. I was mediocre compared to a lot of the students and I knew competition for jobs would be ridiculous. I have my MBA now and I’m not even using it, either. I have a job I absolutely love. It’s a small business. I”m not stressed out. I have tons of flexibility which allows me to take care of my son. In the long run, I have a great life because I gave up on a passion because I knew it wouldn’t work out in the end. Smart man, that Mike Rowe! :)

  • Barbara M

    Wish I had heard this when I was in high school. Man, I would have chosen a much different path to walk than where I ended up. But, then again, maybe I wouldn’t be who I am today. I kinda like me.
    But what he says is truth. My generation was told we could be rock stars or die in a flash of World War 3. But neither happened. Here I am today, educated, in debt, and nothing to show for it.

  • Anna H.

    I was with him right up until the “millions of good jobs unfilled.” Not in my neck of the woods nor any necks of any woods in a very, very wide area around me. Hmmm.

  • Tara Buse

    Very wise

  • Ben

    Someone below wrote: “Kill your dreams and just work to survive? Yeah right.” I disagree with that comment. I took Rowe’s response to mean something more like ‘build your dreams within the context of your reality.’ More of a practical application of a dream. The successful people mentioned above were able to do that.

  • Weiss

    I’m a teacher and completely understand the point of the article & can agree. However, 16 y.o. is a little young to give up on something you’re “passionate” about . If every 16 y.o. I have in class gave up because they weren’t “good” at the subject matter, we’d have a lot of dropouts due to laziness (student responsibility) & neglect (parent/teacher responsibility).

  • Anthony Simeone

    When I read this, I get the message “follow your passion UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT FOR YOU. Then find another passion and follow that.” There’s a bit of a fallacy here, in that the assumption is that people have only one passion in life. I find that we have a number of things we are usually passionate about. OR, we may truly have one or two things we are passionate about, but we can follow/pursue that passion in many different ways. Problems arise when we think that there’s only “one true path” to achieve our goal. I like what Rowe’s saying overall, but I think there’s some nuance missing.

  • Anthony Romano

    That makes so much sense.

  • KneeJerkReaction

    First of all, I disagree with Mike… Second, trying to be what your grandpa was is not a passion, it is being a grandson trying to follow in his grandpa’s footsteps. A passion doesn’t typically limit you to an occupation, it sends you in the direction of doing something you enjoy. A passion is something like “make a difference in people’s lives”. Passions typically aren’t so narrow. Figuring out what your passion is can be very difficult and a lot of times, people don’t take the time to do it before they dive into an occupation, which causes what Mike talked about. Figure out your passion, not your Grandpa’s before you pursue it. Making a difference in people’s lives can be like running a septic company. Sometimes you need to go through a lot of crap before you figure it out.

  • Scott Traubitz

    Maybe you get to fallow your passion maybe not. Mike does a great job of separating “job/profession” and passion when he says “…..always bring your passion with you”

  • ruth

    I wish Mike Rowe was my dad….or even my brother! Full of funny wisdom!!

  • Karen Robitaille

    he’s a genius, and really cute too!!

  • David Simm

    Don’t follow your passion, but bring passion to the table regardless of the task at hand. Most often success comes from not from what you want to do, but how well you do what is asked of you.

  • Leighanna Goodson

    Couldn’t have said it better myself! It’s good to encourage someone to follow their dream but at the same time you need to be realistic with them of what their skills are actually capable of.

  • Laura Biskupic

    While well-intended, this advice makes some depressing assumptions and I completely disagree. It is not necessary to jettison your intelligence to chase your dream.

  • nightMair Creative

    Amen! “Staying the course” only makes sense if you’re headed in a sensible direction. Because passion and persistence – while most often associated with success – are also essential ingredients of futility.”

  • James Preston

    An important balance in a world where “follow your dreams” is becoming the standard inspirational premise. While I don’t agree with the extremely well-written and thought-provoking statement in its entirety, I do agree with most of it. His key line was this one: “I would never advise anyone to “follow their passion” until I understand who they are, what they want, and why they want it.”
    That’s the key. People CAN still follow their passions. As long as they are within the correct context. While many others need pure honesty.

  • Karen Smolarek

    Way to go Mike! You unlike the thousands of kids that do show up for American Idol had a family member who loved you more than being afraid to tell you the truth about the skill you apparently didn’t have. I think half of the kids trying out for American Idol would not if the family would be honest to them. I like how real and transparent you are. It’s refreshing!

  • Michael T. Babcock

    Brilliant response.

  • Jermaine Martinez

    I get it. I do. Rowe just wants to disabuse people of the idea that passion is enough. That a blind belief that if you have passion then that’s all you really need. But passion is a tricky thing. Dreams are different than passion. When one does not dream big or have some greater vision of what they are up to, then its all too easy to give lackluster effort to most things. Its easy to justify a lack of passion when you cannot imagine anything worth doing well. Passion is about “effort,” and not equated with the expectation that having passion will lead to a specific outcome or job. Passion means nothing if it is not drawn out of you as you accept personal responsibility for what you want, who you want to be, and the best (efficient) way you see yourself getting there. This is what Rowe’s story about failing to be a tradesman is all about. Hard work can feel like a “hymn” when you have a clear (bigger?) vision of what all your effort is meant for and bringing much passion to your work will seems a justified response because of that larger vision.

  • Nick Mastromarco

    Bravo Mike Rowe! I’d love to follow every passion I’ve ever had, but I don’t have time because i have to pay the bills. kids these days better roll up their sleeves and get over themselves.

  • David Benepe

    What amazes me is the number of people who continue to try out for all the singing competitions over and over again despite never making it past the first cattle call. I tried out for Season 2 of the Voice, just to experience it, because I loved the first season, have sung in choirs all my life, and have a passion for music. Then I checked it off my bucket list. I continue to love the show and I have a deeper appreciation for the ones who make it on the show, but its not my source of daily bread :) Church choir is the appropriate outlet for my passion :)

  • Ross Keeling

    Thanks Mike. Nice response. This brings to mind my family’s experience. My brother wallowed in sales for several decades before one day he was advised by his employer that he should get himself a trade so he could make a reliable living. It’s my honest opinion that my brother is a near-genius, but he is living a happy and well adjusted life driving trucks. I worked construction jobs in college, and stayed in the business for several decades after I graduated (with mixed results). I turned out to be a pretty handy guy, but I never loved construction, so when the opportunity arose I gathered my resources and went to law school.
    I’m sure Mike Rowe is not suggesting that you can get rich doing every dirty job there is, and it’s not guaranteed you will be rich or happy working at the highest levels. Everybody’s story is different, and the most practical approach to surviving can still be an interesting and satisfying trip.

  • Chachi Mai

    (Yawn) I’m going to use a bit of poetic license & just say…. “Opinions are like @$$40l35, everybody has one.”

  • walterpaulbebirian

    I honestly don’t understand this – what does this fellow Mike Rowe do anyway?

    here he has given the secret of another person:

    “Then I got good at my work. Then I found a way to love it. Then I got rich.”

    where this fellow has described exactly how he creed his own passion – he “found a way to love it” – this is the way most people and their passions are created and it contradicts the advice of not following your passion –

    once you find or create your passion you have stick with it otherwise you will be floundering – and Mikey here has a passion for being a star of something I am sure – :-)

  • LanceWallnau

    Shame I found this conversation too late. I am one of those “bromide” salesman Mike talks about who sells “passion” as an important indicator of your ideal “life work.” The difference is I say
    1. PASSION must be linked to your greatest…
    2. TALENT, which is a cluster of competencies hard wired into you as “strengths” (strengths finder profile works here) and…
    3. maximized by ACQUIRED SKILLS, which is the specific knowledge you need for programing or, production, or whatever…and can be acquired fast and cheap by working for someone who has the skill and doing so for less pay in exchange for mentoring in mastery.
    4. You find a career by getting clear on PASSION first, it will be connected to TALENTS I promise, and the intersection is a JOB that pays you to do what you do best and love to do most. Unless Socialists collapse the economy, at which point you can work with me as a trainer in Singapore.

  • Evelyn Pegg Bai

    This is brilliant and spot-on. Always surprising that people read into things so differently. It is absolutely possible to love something and suck at it, and unless you have an unlimited amount of time and resources to get good enough at it to make a living, you gotta face the music eventually. One can conceivably be passionate about any number of things, so don’t get locked into one thing and drown. Life doesn’t owe you a living for your passion, you earn it by your steadfast efforts and achievements.

  • flynfirefighter11

    You are a very wise man Mike Rowe..! Carry on Mike..! :)

  • Mark Newberry

    It is also possible that your passion is something you’d rather not seek to make a living at, but to keep as your favorite hobby or pastime. Sometimes the grind of making a living at your passion becomes too pressure-filled for you to enjoy it.

  • Tammy T

    That is excellent advice and I will use it when my son needs it. Thank you Mike

  • Jody Agerton

    pure humbleness and the lemonade from lemons way of being. this is how I aspire each day to be.there is no misery in this path. and no one would be left behind. the friend anyone would be blessed to know, a role model for a samaritan. i can imagine there are plenty of people, including myself, who might read this and toss it away iit does not shout out “quick $$$! nor do stars shine your name as the coveted glamourous, famous one listed in the book of fame and fortune. but to those of us who know deep within that there really is more to life look with in pray and meditate, there comes this insight to a rich and solid code that no man nor economic swing can steal away. I reckon Steve is one of the who have this.. There are millions of words toms of moments in everyones life w each have the opportunity to build aaframe to dwell within. I have been in my safe haven and I have strayd away many of times, where it is brutal .not where i want to be. i will find my way back to good. I am a lover not a fighter. I hope that people who arr searching for more will take time to find truth. My prayers go out to you who suffer who are aarre tired of this life. may you eind your door with no lock to prevent you from entering.

  • kelly lammi

    Well said. If I followed my passion I’d be broke and homeless. I have a roof over my head and a job. I live pay check to pay check but I’m happy, Im healthy, my family is healthy. Not much more to ask for…..well, cable would be nice, don’t have it, can’t afford it. Mike, you are amazing to watch, love all shows you’ve done. Thank you for being real and true to yourself!!!

  • Zac

    I’d like to just sit down and have a few beers with Mike Rowe one day. Seems like a guy that I could have a good talk with.

  • Hadur

    After reading the comments I see that many people think that this is about quitting what you burn for but not are good at and get a job.
    What they forget is that you can still do it, but not full time.
    There is a ton of things I love to do, I love rock and metal, and playing guitar and sing. But I suck so badly at it so I will never get anywhere with it. I just play with friends and on parties.
    What I try to say is that you don’t have to quit doing what you burn for, one just have to make it a hobby.
    You can still have a normal job and a hobby.

  • Heather

    ha ha ha I agree with this and think that Mike Rowe expresses himself very eloquently. I just had to chime in because I had a double major in History and English Literature (with a Medieval and Renaissance concentration in both) and minors in Political Science and French. His example about college graduates rings true. I did get a job, however, but I had to work my way up before my pay was commensurate with my degrees. 😉

  • missholly46

    I have always thought that true success was in approaching every job with pride and doing the best you can do. A superb waitress is no less successful than a movie star.

  • Obamatronzombie

    I’ve lived by and inspired my son, in a simpler motto. I demonstrated in my work and told my son: “Never give up!”

  • Ken O’Donnell

    Mike is dead on. Being self aware is vitally important. To expound on what Mike said, Mark Cuban once said…”Don’t follow your dreams, follow your EFFORT”. Meaning it is one thing to dream about being good at something and it is another to work hard at being good at something. If you don’t have the drive, effort, self awareness, and direction, to accompany that dream, then you are wasting your time.

    Every job is important and you should always be passionate about what you do, even if it is cleaning out septic tanks. In the immortal words of Judge Smails…”The world needs ditch diggers too, Danny!”

  • Keith Dickens

    This is one of the most wonderful advise letters I’ve ever read and probably one of the most useful articles ever written on the Interwebs, period.

    Parents should really take note of this and pass the message on their kids, especially once they start getting into the years where career selection is more serious – teens for some…mid 30’s for others.

  • meh

    Mike Rowe once again showing his backwards colors trying to pin mass unemployment on spoiled millennials and the misguided poor. Fuck off Mike Rowe.

  • Kevin Mcstay

    I believe you should be honest with everyone no matter the pain it may cause….I once read ” a friend will say good job , a true friend will say you suck”. I don’t like to hurt feelings ,but the truth needs to be said so you don’t end up on american idol making a total ass of yourself

  • Bill Gokey

    I believe Mike wrote some very important Tips here. To many people out there thinking and waiting for that rainbow to appear while stepping over where the true opportunity is. I actually know some of these folks that think down on positions they could earn decent income from because they believe they are above them. Get over it people.. There just aren’t many jobs out there for your Liberal Arts degree. You went to school, you took the easiest quickest way to put paper in your hand that is good for 1 thing only..use it and then get a job.

  • Bob Grinsell

    Everyone needs to have something about which they are passionate, but that doesn’t mean they’ll be able to make a career out of it. A friend of mine loves setting up and running sound equipment for bands. He works in sales at a chemical company so he can afford to buy sound equipment and work with local bands on the nights and weekends. I work in IT, because it pays the bills and allows me to pursue the things that give me joy. Your job is your livelihood, it doesn’t have to be your life. It allows you to have a life.

  • Brandon

    Great response Mike. You know, I’m actually a trainer in personal development and it blows my mind how much (financially and time-wise) people invest into their passions. The average debt rate for student college loans has sky-rocketed over the last decade because these students aren’t finding work. They’re passionate about what they do. But theres always someone better that takes the job before them. Competition is ridiculous. Hit me up on facebook folks “Brandon McCaskill”. You’ll see my job title as “EagleProfits”. Love to help anyone out whose looking to make a change in their life financially regardless of your background.

  • kim bunchalastnames

    yeah, okay, i know, i’m nazi-ing — but i wish someone had been more passionate about proofing this damned article. the incorrect placing of punctuation makes me crazier.

  • jose

    I’m 42….recently my wife asked “if you could do anything? Be anything different from what you are now what would it be? What would be that dream job?”. Without a seconds hesitation I said 1 of 2 things: 1) play professionally in a Latin percussion band/group, or 2) be a cook/chef in a small local neighborhood style restaurant. She was envious because I was so sure about my dream…about my passion. I have talent in both but not the kind that would launch me to stardom and I’ve never made the conscious effort to pursue either one because I didn’t think I could excel. Instead I make a successful living off a corporate job and live my dream by playing chef with family & friends….and I play in a small percussion group that actually has a local following. Neither pays the bills but they contribute to the wealth of my soul. My point is that I see where Mike is coming from. I made a choice to not pursue my dream/passion to be my livelihood BUT I never dismissed it either. It grew with me every step of the way. I found a way, for ME, to make a healthy living AND indulge in the things that truly make me happy. This is MY story but I think sometime others need to have that moment with themselves where they’re honest about their talent, effort & means to determine which path to take. Kudos to those who manage to reach their dream AND keep a roof over their head and food on the table.

  • Amy Klco

    The problem, I really believe, it that we don’t understand the idea of the American Dream anymore. According to http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/…/americandream/ (which has a great discussion about how the American dream has changed throughout history), the American Dream is “the belief that in the United States, people are free to pursue opportunity, and that through hard work, they can make a better life for themselves and their children.”

    Unfortunately, many American only know the abridged version of this principal: “in the United States, people [deserve] a better life for themselves.” They seem to think that they have a right to expect a good life for themselves, but don’t realize that they need to work hard to get that life, and sometimes that hard work may be in another field to help them pay the bills until they can make that dream a reality.

    I still believe that you should “follow your bliss” in life, but it is important to understand that you will have to work hard and sacrifice a lot to achieve that dream. And sometimes, you may have to rethink how you define that dream, based on what you really excel at.

    Mike Rowe said that his dream was “to be a tradesman. I wanted to build things, and fix things, and make things with my own two hands.” And you know what: he has achieved that dream. Due to his time on Dirty Jobs, he had probably had a chance to build and make and fix more different kind of things that he ever would have if he had stuck with his original plan. Luckily for us, Mike Rowe took what he was good at–being honest, being sincere, being funny, and being a bit of a klutz (let’s face it, part of what made Dirty Jobs so good was watching Mike mess up)–and found a way to make a life based on that. And in the end, he did reach his original dream in a way he could never have predicted. Thus, he really did live up to his own advice: “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.”

  • onlyduh

    I am SO the Mike Rowe Fan….

  • Susan

    best fucking advice I have ever heard in my life. I want to strangle Oprah and all the other billionaires who tell people to “Find what you love and do it”…yeah there are those handful of people who actually got to do that but here in our country…if you only want to do what you are passionate about, you will be one of those people standing in the rain, holding a sign saying ‘Will work for food…God Bless You”…As for living in a country where “everyone gets a trophy’…I remember going tto watch my friend’s 5 year old play T-ball. At the end of the game…THERE WERE NO WINNERS OR LOSERS…THEY ALL GOT A FUCKING TROPHY and were “high fived” and told “Great job” and all kinds of other bullshit. I looked at her and with shock and awe said, “What the Fuck Katie? Is this for real? Do you really think you are preparing Matt for life with this nonsense? NO One gives losers a trophy in our world today. He is going to get out there and think just showing up counts for something…I cannot believe she bought into that theory that trying is all that matters…it’s a knock down, dog eat dog world out there and NOT everyone gets a freaking trophy…hell hardly anyone gets a chance at bat. Find your passion, embrace it, nurture it and maybe follow it but in the mean time…do what my mother always told me..”Pray for potatoes then grab the hoe”..Love ya Mike…always have, always will

    • laurele

      Why not instead work for a world where no one is considered a “loser?” It’s called the win-win paradigm and is the opposite of the zero-sum game in which one person’s gain has to come at another person’s–and often the planet’s–expense. It’s only a dog-eat-dog world if we decide that’s what we want. We can and should make different choices if we want humanity to have a future.

  • Wilma Romereim

    To many try to follow their dreams only to be poor when good jobs could of been a stable income.

  • Geek0id

    First you suck a lot, then you get great. Passion gives you the motivation to work through the suck part.

  • meh

    y’all have some seriously distorted understandings of reality and economics and you really don’t give a shit about the plight of working people in this country let alone the rest of the world. keep digesting mike rowe’s crypto fascist reactionary populist bullshit and reading TMZ you fucking meeces. the permafrost is melting.

  • reneeroseholland

    Also, his statement about “following your passion” being the worst advice he ever got, pertained to HIM only. He wasn’t speaking for everyone. So stupid that time is spent on things like this.

  • Guest

    I think Mike Rowe’s response is good. His comments on inspirational
    posters and memes are perceptive. Believing the fairy tale that everyone
    who has a dream and works hard will be successful is not only
    unrealistic, it keeps us from having an equitable society where people
    who do their jobs can simply make a living wage. But as far as
    avocations, interests and hobbies go, I think we should still follow our
    passions. That’s where the worth in life comes from.

  • Win4Ever

    Wow. Me try be English teacher for big long time. Me re-think career.

    Lol! Serously though, cool response by Rowe.

  • Guillermo Lamphar

    Be serious and mature. His answer is wrong. It is extremely extremely hard that someone feels passionate about anything he is not good at. Is reeeeeeeeeeeeeally extremely hard.

    If what you are passionate about isn’t a way of living it’s only because you didn’t chase it enough. You changed your mind and your objective. If your objective in life is to live wealthy then you don’t have to follow your passion, just something that earns you some money. But if your objective is to be happy then you need to follow that passion. Period.
    Is a meaning to an end.

  • Keith

    He is right, I think you can make those kinds of choices but knowing what you can do is important. I quit a high paying Corporate job 25 years ago to start my own company. I gave up a lot, security, high pay, prestige, etc. to do something positive to help save the earth and fill a creative desire I had. I have a successful construction company that uses green building technology, I was one of the pioneers in sustainable building. I have great employees, some of which have been with me since the first project. I am not doing without, but I will never be rich.

  • Inspiridos

    Similarly, if your parents or anyone else ever told you that you “can do anything you put your mind to”; well that just isn’t realistic either. If I put my mind to it, and that worked, there would be world peace; no greedy bastards; and we would all be generous, kind, loving to each other, and all our best dreams fulfilled. Reality is not controlled by any one of us, nor any collection of us, nor should it be. The best we can do is to make the best of what we have and to do the best we can for others in this world; and you know that should be enough. The most valuable thing we have is our relationship with other people. All this power and influence motivated by greed, delusions of grandeur, fueled by some sort of pathetic narcissism is only creating a world of people filled with hate bent on the destruction of each other. Similarly, this does not mean you should not to put your mind to things, just do so with the understanding that reality will go its own way and not necessarily yours, and occasionally you are wrong and should just change your mind and its direction.

  • Leo 6

    Good wisdom, this could be in Proverbs.

  • Dani

    I wonder if Mike has ever read this book:

    http://www.amazon.com/Good-They-Cant-Ignore-You/dp/1455509124

    It’s called “So Good They Can’t Ignore You: Why Skills Trump Passion in the Quest for Work You Love” by Cal Newport. I hear it’s a good read and seems spot on with what Mike is saying here.

  • Heather Davenport

    I am adding that last line of his to my favourite quotes list. Love this!

  • Yvonne Clark

    Well said Mike Rowe.

  • Troglodyke

    I highly recommend the book “So Good They Can’t Ignore You” by Cal Newport. It flips the idea of “follow your passion” on its head, and presents very compelling reasons why.

  • Marta

    Really like the article. Hating some of the trolls on here though.

  • Mechenger

    It torments me a little to read this, given that the pursuit of my passion has actually worked out to a remarkable degree, but it certainly makes sense for a lot of people. I’ve seen countless attempts to make things happen through force of will, the majority of which have failed.

  • Jay Upton

    This is the common sense advice many who are starting college should get. I think of all the stories about student debt and the student realizing he’s unemployable because no one steered him, and all he had to go on was a dream. I’v also seen students who were able to go all the way with tuition aid, because they were in a field of study that industry needed.
    Good call Mike !!

    • laurele

      We need to go back to financial aid in the form of grants instead of loans, like we had until Reagan changed it. Grants are investments in our next generation, not handouts.

  • lucius-cornelius

    Ah yes, self help for the unemployed. A growth industry and one that is more or less completely full of crap.

  • Roger Komula

    Gee, it’s cool to be a regular guy if you’re getting PAID. so he doesn’t live like a king. His money has a posh bank account. And yes, I’m sure he gives a lot away, but i’ll bet he made sure he’ll squeak by. His everyman routine is as tired as Neil Young’s or Larry the Cable Guy. Get a little education with that homespun wisdom now that you can afford a few classes.

  • Eric

    He’s dead on. I am an English Literature major – I had planned on teaching high school. But while I was great at literature and writing papers, I sucked at just about everything else and by my junior year in college, was removed from the Education Program at my school – I got my degree, but no license. I also realized with all the student loan debt I had piled up, teaching wasn’t really a viable option (I excel in basic math – just not advanced algebra, calculus, and trig, and saw that my debt would have removed teaching as an option if my school hadn’t).

    So I started looking around. I discovered my skills at writing, which I at first thought were only useful for academia or crafting stories, were actually in demand for technical literature. While not skilled at science or math myself, my Dad is an engineer, as is my uncle, another uncle who is a doctor…I’m the black sheep of my family. But, because I grew up in a family who excelled in math or science, I was very good at communicating with them and also at translating their highly technical lingo into words the rest of us can understand.

    My senior year, in addition to my class studies, I dove into the library and taught myself skills to become a tech writer like web development (html, css, javascript, php, MySQL); spent my summer savings buying Adobe’s Creative suite and taught myself Photoshop and Illustrator so I could create drawings and edit photographs for instructional purposes, as well as InDesign and FrameMaker for printed materials. Took a job in the middle of nowhere out of school to gain a few years of professional experience. With examples to show off my skills, I landed a great job in Atlanta, where I am not only the company’s tech writer, but also maintain all of their websites, and also design all of their printed ads.

    But as Mike said, you still carry your passion with you. I’m in the final draft of my first novel. Most likely, it won’t sell well, even if I am talented. Some great works go unnoticed forever, many that are eventually “discovered” are done so posthumously; and many people that get rich and famous have zero skill, but struck a nerve or hopped on board a fad (Fifty Shades of Gray, while mature in content, can be outdone in skill by some 8th graders or freshmen in high school – but it sells because of the shock value and its relation to Twilight).

    So I’ve carried my passion with me. I also strive to be good at it – I ask for reviews from friends and acquaintances who I know will be honest with me and work at my craft. And because I carry my passion with me, but didn’t follow it, I’m free to write simply for the love of writing – I have no need for the book to sell well, though it would be great if it does. But writing without needing the money means I am not even tempted to put something in there just because I think it will help sales or make it popular. I write what I want to write. If it becomes popular, great – I would love to be the one in a million novelist who makes a living off of creative fiction alone. If not, no loss for me.

    Always carry your passion with you, but discover where its best employed before deciding to make a living off of it. Sound wisdom indeed!

  • NR

    I think he was dead on. Sometimes, Some people should just get a job to make a living. Save the passion for their hobbies. It is great when you can do both bur few and far between. Don’t lose your passion but don’t expect somebody else to pay you for it!

  • Iain Pogue

    I am so thankful to have had the opportunity to view the comments on this article. Like the smell of potpurri in the autumn breeze, I sit outside your bathroom door letting the remnant smells of your innards empty into my nasal cavity. I will always be watching and listening my insightful playthingz

  • Michael A. Cramer

    Nope. Totally disagree. Every great artist has been told not to follow their dreams. Success requires a lot of failure and greatness can’t be spotted. We need all those dreamers because, although most of them will fail, you will never know which will succeed. As usual, Dave Grohl says it best: http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/804109

    • Eric

      yes, hollywoodreporter.com is exactly where i go for advice…

      Just because you don’t follow your dreams doesn’t mean you don’t pursue them. Following your dreams (before knowing if you have 1: the talent 2: the audience) is foolish. Pursuing your dreams is always good. If, after pursuing it with some success, you have reason to believe that following it as the primary way you spend your time will lead to greater success, THEN you stop just pursuing and follow it.

      Or if you don’t mind being a starving artist, then one can follow it no matter what. But shirking personal responsibility and living off of others while “following your dreams” into oblivion is simply wrong, which is what most end up doing.

      Also, an artist spending time working and being a self-supporting and contributor to society GREATLY enhances their art; they have a much better understanding of not only the world, but the people that make up the world, and can reflect this in their art, whether it be acting, painting, writing, or music. In order to create art that speaks to people, you must understand people, in order to understand people, you must walk in their shoes.

      • Eric

        examples include: DaVinci, Anvil, Charles Bukowski, Herman Melville, Vivian Maier, and Anna Mary Robertson Moses

  • Kent Hunter-Duvar

    I agree with you Mike. A great example in Nicolas Tesla. An incredibly smart man, much more important than Edison in the development of electricity as we know it. Largely unknown, ignored and died in poverty. I’m glad he followed his passion, but not a lifestyle I want for me or mine.

  • sabapete

    Follow your passion. And if don’t have the ability to make it happen then hire those that do.

  • laurele

    I will never stop following my passion. American Idol is hardly a good example to use. Part of the entertainment for viewers is seeing people get rejected. But being rejected does not mean someone does not have talent; in many cases, it is a very subjective decision. In many cases, those who give up on their passions become bitter, angry, and jealous people who torment others who refuse to give up. There is no one cookie cutter answer appropriate for all people. Every individual has to do what is right for him/her self.

  • Wayne Estrada

    Well said Mike. I share five secrets to success in life. #1 is Find Something you LOVE. Danger here as you mentioned…following you passion is not enough because #2 is Be GOOD at it! Loved your example of American Idol…some people are clueless to their limitations or lack of ability. Just because you love to sing and play the piano doesn’t make you Billy Joel. Thanks for yet another rational, helpful post.

  • laurele

    “If a man walk in the woods for love of them half of each day, he is in danger of being regarded as a loafer; but if he spends his whole day as a speculator, shearing off those woods and making earth bald before her time, he is esteemed an industrious and enterprising citizen.” ~Henry David Thoreau

  • Nick Hull

    Would Mike say the same thing about optimism? Maybe the inspirational office poster should have been. “Be optimistic, but keep it realistic”.

  • Scott

    I appreciate Mike’s ability to express the Truth!

  • Steve

    Nicely done

  • Kevin Lwrnc

    Truth…God Bless you Mike.

  • Mikegreen40

    Mike Rowe, the epitome of common sense and pragmatism. I could not agree more with his assessment. As a college teacher I see many students guided by the desire to better themselves and go to college. This is a great to have a more educated society. However, I question their realism. I see many students, at times, set up for failure not because they cannot do the work, but because they have not reasonably received good information about their chances at obtaining the job that they want. That is why I always push for students to get a Liberal Arts degree. It is a great because it is applicable to so many circumstances. Again, I would not say follow your dreams or your passion. I would say realistically assess your chances. I see so many students that get sports scholarships go to college to attempt to get noticed by the scouts that they forget that they are also there to get a education. If it were me, I would take the scholarship and try to get the best education I could get. However, too many students athletes do not take this advantage. In part, its bad advice from counselors. But it is also an unrealistic aspect in that the chances of any of these Community College athletes will become a pro. If they were that good what are they doing at a community college?

  • Jules James

    Sure wish Mike would talk to my 19 year old soon-to-be singer-songwriter rock star with skills abounding in so many other directions.

  • Tee Lowry

    Funny, I was thinking about this the other day! I have been getting fed up with this entitled addittude our society has nowadays. They tell our kids they can do whatever they want yet we have a system that’s sets them up for failure. I may feel differently if our economy and educational system wasn’t so jacked up. We need to be realistic with the kids about this mess their inheriting. Yet and still, I think its a balance. You can follow your dreams, just have a realistic plan, and a plan b and c also!

  • Sandy Shoup

    Love it! Especially the last line. I was passionate about animals, wanted to be a vet from age 5. Straight As in high school and all set for college. Then life interfered and I ended up working in accounting and computer science (having started as the receptionist for a CPA firm). No college but also no student loans and I used my passion for animals as a hobby instead. My point? I was earning $75,000 a year in 2005 without a college degree and the mountain of debt that would have come with it. I was happy and satisfied in my career because I took my passion with me in whatever I was doing. My guiding principles were:

    1) There is nothing that needs to be done that is “beneath” me.

    2) Anything I do is done to the best of my ability. …(whether it be cleaning a toilet or preparing financial statements)

    I really like Mike’s sensible viewpoint. Thank you!

  • SRPinPGH

    I wanna see the paramecium sconce now.

  • M.J. Sweety

    I think he gave great advice. It’s nice to hear someone else thinking “that’s a bunch of crap.” Sure, sometimes it works out well in the end for those who follow their passion. But I’m just a schlep who never really had a grand passion for any field of endeavor. So I took the courses I liked in college, plus some I didn’t (so I could get my degree) and then went out in the world and realized what I was best at was being an unobtrusive yet extremely helpful cog in the big scheme of things.

  • Al Dente

    As I look over my life the times I followed Joseph Campbell’s advice to “follow your bliss” I was happiest and most fulfilled. Even when things didn’t work out the way I anticipated they always managed to work out for the best. When I was in high school the aptitude test they had us take said that my ideal profession would be chemical engineer. I wanted to be a musician though. The college that I ended up going to offered me a physics scholarship but I had no interest in that; I put all my energies into becoming the best musician I could. After 3 years of music school I was no where near graduating and I was working professionally and teaching private lessons but things just weren’t working out like I wanted. I decided to get a job and go to college part time to take some of the pressure off. I didn’t have a car so I could only work within walking distance of campus. During a break I worked a lot of overtime and saved enough for a bicycle so I’d be able to work a wider radius. Once I had a good bike I really got into it and started riding more and more. I hung out at my local bike shop learning bike lore and eventually I spent so much time there the owner hired me. I thought bicycles were the greatest thing man ever created. They are inexpensive, lasted decades with reasonable care, were amazingly efficient, good exercise, and some of the nicest people you will ever meet are cyclists. I was working just enough to support myself and trained the rest of the time and raced on weekends. I didn’t have that much natural talent and starting so late I knew I’d never be good enough a bike racer to make a living at it but I loved it and I made my money wrenching and managing bicycle shops. Eventually I burned too many bridges and started to get burned out on bicycles. About this time one of my customers was trying to sell his Atari 800. He had buyer’s remorse wishing he got an Apple ][ instead so he sold me his Atari cheap. I took the intro Computer Science class to learn some programming and did so well that my professor asked me to take more classes. I discovered this thing called the Internet. The only people on it were college students and engineers but it had things like anonymous ftp, gopher, archie, BBSes, IRC, MUDs, etc. I gravitated to UNIX and C. I remember my wife looking over the classifieds telling me I was wasting my time. All the jobs were for Cobol, MVS, VMS, RPG, etc. Nobody was hiring UNIX or C programmers. I thought data processing was boring so I kept doing my own thing. A few years later I got a programming job, then became a UNIX system administrator, then a few years after that the World Wide Web started taking off and everyone started using the Internet I was well positioned to ride that wave. I threw myself into whatever my passion happened to be. I never had a fall-back plan and no bets were hedged. I think that Mr. Rowe is onto something though. Our society looks down on laborers. A friend who took the same high school aptitude test came up with “manual laborer.” I saw that as an insult but he always liked working with his hands and was already a fine carpenter and aspired to be a custom cabinet maker. There are people’s who’s bliss is building, plumbing, wiring, mucking, etc. Society automatically sees these people as unfulfilled and underutilized so people are discouraged from these fields even if it is their bliss.

  • Troy Merrill

    This man has an incredible way with pen and paper. It amazes me how a man that seems so simple (not is derogatory sense) can be so eloquent, tactful, truthful and endearing. When I first read Stephen’s question I thought, yeah Mike, why shouldn’t we follow our passion. Your response was perfect and made total sense (as almost everything you say does). I wanted to be a professional volleyball player. I lived and breathed volleyball in my hometown of Santa Cruz my whole life. I could not imagine not being on the court or the beach playing. I practiced, I played, I practiced, I played and I eventually realized, I was never going to be a professional. I also realized I was really good at teaching skills. As they say, those that can’t play, coach. Well for me I didn’t become a volleyball coach but I did become a teacher. Not a passion at the time, but now I could not imagine not seeing my kids each day in my classroom.

  • HCMehdi

    So to summarize, don’t follow your passions… discover them! Love it!

  • The Flying Scotsman

    A solution looking for problems if I’ve ever seen one. Most people will never even fully formulate an idea of what their passions are let alone follow them. They’ll be far too busy trying to put food on the table and pay rent at a shitty job that’s only been made worse by the demonizing of labor in this country. A tiny fraction of people ever “follow their dreams” for this very reason, and all Rowe’s supposed pragmatic stances won’t change that truth. His recent lionization as some Everyman soothsayer has become quite tiresome.

    His use of “hackneyed bromides” is also hysterical.

  • afdssfa

    Reminds me of some good chapters in “The Defining Decade: Why Your Twenties Matter–And How to Make the Most of Them Now”. Exceptional read with great advice.

  • T Kiphuth

    I would love to be able to draft prose as eloquently as Mike but, it turns out my talent shines far brighter when drafting the instructions for todays powerful computing systems. There’s probably a lesson there somewhere…

  • Dennis Nicho Garcia

    I believe Mike and others who give advice, do it, from THEIR perspective and life experiences. Now, does that mean he’s wrong and others right ? I don’t think so. Not everything anyone says, (except me, of course, (: ),however successful they are NOW, is truly applicable to all. The reason I mostly say this is because (and this is the main reason in my view) you have to deal with PEOPLE. We’re such a fickle bunch.

  • Dennis Nicho Garcia

    When Clinton (yea, I know you hate him but I digress) was in Office, there were jobs, many many jobs, so many, people in this day and age will never know. I never been good at anything. But I never told that to myself. Only to others. It’s dangerous to tell yourself that, just like is dangerous to tell others how good and great you are. That said, I never quit looking, going after something, engaging. I always had work. Always. And while I don’t live in a castle or even in a mansion, I look back and realize that yes, it could’ve been better. It can always be. But in looking about my life NOW, I see that some people are even afraid to make their first attempt to a job for many reasons I find self defeating. Like I’m not good enough, or smart enough. I’ll say this, if someone says you may be useful about something DO IT. Or try for heaven’s sakes. I guaranty you that you will learn something. You do this a few times and soon you start to see yourself differently. The big problem with young people and some not so as young is they’re waiting and never go outside their comfort zone. Outside that comfort zone my friend is where life really begins.

  • David

    Well said Mike.

  • Janice Kissick

    He has a point. I know a few people who had “passion”, and then found out that’s all it was, a passion. Not a goal. Yes, many have given their lives for their “passion”. And some have done extraordinary things, even visionary things with it. The goal is to survive doing something you love, so you never feel like you are working. I wanted to be a doctor. Had a passion for medical anything. Unfortunately I did not get the math “gene”. So being a doctor wasn’t an option. And as I get older “medical things” doesn’t sound as wonderful as it did then. My job is helping people with disabilities learn to live independently and to find success in the working world. A job I find pleasant and rewarding. What more could you ask for? Passion is overrated.

  • kzif

    His grandfather fucked him up and now he’s trying to convince everyone else that his outlook on work and life isn’t fucked up.

  • Stephen Suelzle

    I am so happy to hear someone else say this. I have felt this way for years. Telling people, children especially, things like “You can do anything you set your mind to” or “Don’t ever give up” is at best unrealistic or at worst destructive. Follow what you feel strongly about, absolutely. But you also have to be realistic about what you can achieve and what is achievable.
    Remember, only successful people will tell you how well their path worked. You’ll never hear that from all the unsuccessful people who did the same thing.
    I agree with everything that Mike Rowe said.

  • gokiss

    dead on Mike !

  • Foster

    Following your passion can also mean alcohol, drugs, sex addictions, not to mention power, greed, world domination, terrorism, false gods ect. ect.

  • Wendy Johns

    DUH! Unfortunately we all cannot follow our passion. But some jobs are not jobs to be passionate about. Just be sure to take pride in all you do. That’s my advice.

  • BethTr

    I understand what Mike is saying. Growing up I wanted to be a veterinarian. Animals were my passion. So I took all the necessary classes in high school. Some twice but even with a tutor I could not grasp Trig or Chemistry. I moved on, worked hard at what ever job I had and now I’m in HVAC and I love it and I’m great at it. My passion is alive and well by fostering or volunteering.

  • Tom Kastle

    Not everyone can be an Oscar winning actor?!! No kidding. So, according to Mr. Rowe, you should abandon anything that doesn’t make you a “success”. Everyone who pursues their passion even intends to make it a career. Think of those who have the dream of winning an Academy Award but, due to whatever circumstances, follow a different road but still do community theatre in their spare time. Sorry, Mike; they are following their passion, too. Sure; following your passion has its drawbacks but not doing so leads to a duller life and a duller world. Also…let’s not forget that the advice to not “follow your passion” is coming from an actor named Mike Rowe.

  • Joanna Passmore

    That’s good advice.

  • Anthony McMurray

    I always see people who only get jobs where they love what they do. Typically those jobs dont pay much. So you can do that one thing you love every day when your working and essentially nothing else when your not working. If you take a job you dont love to whatever degree and you get paid a lot, when your not working you can do all the things you love. Then work towards combining them. I never got the do what you love, follow your passion above all else concept. But hey if your parents are rich and you dont have to worry about feeding yourself etc. then follow your passion i guess.

  • Kieran Dee

    The most poignant, well-crafted, and honest explanation (that I have ever read), regarding man’s search for meaning and success in our modern society. Thank you, Mike Rowe, for having the wisdom and bravery to tell us all what we desperately need to hear. Wise words that I will impart to my children as soon as they are old enough to understand them.

  • Randy Scott

    Outstanding.

  • Frank Diekman

    And that’s how Mike Rowe wound up on QVC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esXvk9AV0MI

  • Aaron

    Give the man a PHD in life. He’s smarter than most of my high school teachers.

  • shazzzzee

    I absolutely LOVE this response!! I’ve had to tell several friends and family members that no one is obligated to pay them a salary or contribute to their business just because they are “passionate”. Those benefits are given most often when their output is of value to the other party. But I seemed to be in the minority with this view.

    Glad to know I’m in good company, Mr. Rowe! 😀

  • Paul

    Outstanding column Mike!
    Paul from Buffalo,NY

  • Rolo Mictlantecuhtli

    Whenever I need advice about life, I look to TV personalities to inform me.

  • Geneva Chapman

    I’ve given this same advice to students. Something that you have a passion for can become a volunteer position. Growing up all I wanted to do was write, stage, and produce musical comedies. But my grandmother who reared me was more practical. I went to college and eventually became a teacher two degrees later. I wrote my first full-length musical comedy forty years ago this month and it was produced three years later. I’ve written seven musical cimedies that have been produced and one that hasn’t. I followed my passion, but I also have the skills to make a living. Win-win.

  • Steven Spivey

    I have read most of your post ….it is sad how many of you made an inappropriate joke about what you read , when you should have “gotten” and commented on the actual content. As we are entitled to our own opinion, I choose to believe that the truth in his message should be embraced by most and used as a judging scale for many.! This includes not only myself, but several of you I mentioned above…… Now, feel free to continue the “mocking ” of people s comments and punctuation corrections (as I am surely on the list) But , incase it’s not obvious…….punctuation is NOT something I’m passionate about. Good Evening!

  • Kanishka Ray

    Just some blue collar bile and resentment being spewed here. No one is passionate about having to clean a toilet, pump out a septic tank, or be a garbageman. It’s a dirty job, but someone’s gotta do it. But many in America don’t want to do it….and that’s the reason garbagemen make a decent living.

  • Daniel Moshe Johnson

    Interesting article, then I began to ponder upon true purpose in this sense reality, which has presented nothing but material perspectives based in kniving, blocking, selfishness, egos, cliches, negative social behaviour, oligarchy and murder for power.

    This is what has cultivated as a result a society where the occupiers occupation is based in greed and stimulus ideals based in idolatry and carnal ideals.

    There should be one aim, to embark upon the wisdom of the designer, and expand to full brain usage where each can find and let go of self.

    Meister Eckhart said:

    ” what I was I wanted, and what I wanted I was”

    That which we seek is seeking us, but we must let go of illusions and began to really examine the spectrum of society and the final analysis.
    As long as the wrong occupiers flood the system with rubbish, we will see a society headed for destruction.

    The article did not mention the great master architect, the more we ignore that there is even a foundation Placer for the earth even, the more we sink towards the non perfect destiny of each creative mind potential.

  • snarkyb

    Mike Rowe is one of my heroes. He’s correct about passion. What isn’t said, except by the Septic Guy, is that when you become good at something, you begin to love it because being good, becoming expert, at something makes you feel really, really good. I was the artsy type, but got advised to go into a business curriculum. I got really good at financial analysis and loved it. But it wasn’t what I thought I’d be doing. As life progressed, I hit lots of roadblocks and made plenty of u-turns, but was always able to analyze rationally what was needed and so I was able to thrive. I still kept my hand in with art, making my own Christmas cards and taking, frankly, really good photos. Later, once I became a lot more educated (as opposed to trained), I started writing. It was all dreck at first, but I persevered; now I’m very happy with my writing. Mike’s message, for me, is that all work is noble, but common sense must override dreams for economic stability and peace of mind. The career would be a vocation; the dreams, the passion, can be an avocation.

  • BangBangUptownGang

    Mike acts like some Blue Collar everyman hero who wears that same stupid hat even if hes at a black tie event thats his shtick…In reality he comes from an upper middle class he’s college educated he’s an opera singer and he’s actor…lol…so corny

  • Joseann Freyer-Lindner

    In addition, Passio originates from the Greek ” πάσχειν” paschein which means ‘to suffer”. Follow your passion actually says “follow your suffering”. Many people probably don’t know that and mistake “passion” for “having fun”.

  • JIMSTRUIK

    HE HAS HIS PRIORITIES RIGHT!

  • Jean Ouderkirk

    Totally agree with Mike on this one.

  • Terry Lease

    I think Mike has found his passion and is very good at it. What he said is true, just because you want something, doen’t mean by giving 100% you’ll get it. Sometime you realize later in life you have left your passion past and never knew it existed.

  • Peg Walton

    I think Mike is 100% correct. I believe one of the reasons so many people are unemployed is because they will not lower their expectations, even to survive. My dream was to become a teacher. I had to wait until I was 50 years old to afford college, but I did it! Keep your dreams, but live your life. Too many college students “can’t find a job” because the won’t “work for MacDonalds” or whatever. If it isn’t in their plan, they ignore the opportunity to take care of themselves and progress, even if slowly. Anything is better than nothing. But yes, keep that dream. At the right time, it might just happen. Or not…

  • Moody

    I remember starting out my college years as an engineer major, thinking the stars were within my reach. A few short days into my classes, I quickly switched to something in English that I had a chance of reaching because I discovered those stars were a beautiful dream. I get what he is saying. It is simple, honest, humorous and practical. Practical is not always glamorous or popular but when it rings true even the most ardent debaters take a seat. Well said Mr. Rowe

  • Dennis

    Follow your passion until you figure out it doesn’t lead anywhere. I wanted my son to be passionate about something, anything. He got into heavy metal music but I “knew” that was a dead end. I tried to steer his creativity a different way and only recently he found it, his real creative passion. I know that this career will not only make him “successful” (whatever that means) but will make him happy.

  • Carol Makofka

    Excellent advice. I am thankful that I married a man devoted to working for a living that was totally different than anything he thought or planned in order to support his family.

  • tafa

    Excellent article/advice. Too many of these frivolous cliches are directing people to nowhere. Following your passion my not mean earning a living doing so but keeping it as apart of your life so it remains a passion. So yes always bring it with you.

  • Sara Amis

    I would just like to point out that there are lots of jobs for people who major in French Literature, providing they are proficient in French.

  • Henri Herbert

    Sounds like he gave up when he became frustrated. Wonder what would have happened if he’d devoted 10,000 hours to the woodwork.

  • Karen Michele

    Ya know, I have to agree with him. Why are some of these people on theses singing shows, like, The Voice, America’s Got Talent? Some of them are so bad. You would think those that love that person would be honest with that person way before they go on National Television. I get what he is saying, sometimes, the thing we are most passionate about, it not what we are best at.

  • david a van dusen sr

    Most of you monkeys missed the point like always Mike didn’t say don’t follow your dreams he said if there reasonable and have a plan b.Most of the people coming out of collage theses days only go with plan a because that’s what they went to 6 years of school for so plan b is not an option for them because they can’t see past plan a.I don’t believe Mike Rowe would tell anybody how or what they should be or do.but most of you can’t see the Forrest for the trees even tho your standing in it.I’m not rich nor am I well off I’ve been working since I was 14 that was 44years ago I’ve done work at everything I thought was my passion, I’ve been a truck driver for 21years now I love it its the best job in the world ,what other job do you know that you drive someone’s truck no money for maintenance,fuel or anything and if you break down they send somebody for you ,you get to see the country for free.I never thought to be a driver but it turned out to be my passion I love it.I was a master machine for 25 years before that,so yes Mike I followed my dream but just didn’t know what it was untill I found it .liked dirty jobs hope you come back with it someday

  • leelandluver

    Hmm. . . . I found his answer surprisingly honest, practical, and inspiring. To give a recent example in my own life (I am just barely entering the workforce, so I do not claim great experience or authority.) I majored in Liberal Studies, since I thought teaching would be something I would enjoy, had talent and experience in, and could actually do as a career. I took music as a minor and participated in theater as well. Though music and theater made my heart soar, I knew I had only an average talent in them. So I pursued the more “practical”, yet equally fulfilling career of teaching. I am growing more and more passionate about it everyday.

    But suppose, for whatever reason, I could not become a teacher, a singer, or an actress, and had to continue waiting tables my whole life (my previous job, which was not my “passion” per say). Would I be doomed to a life of failure, never having realized my dream? No, I should strive to find joy in that job, working to the best of my ability. If I was later able to do something else, then great. If not, then great.

    There are other factors at play besides simply “What is my dream job?” Everyone’s story is different. Sometimes you work hard, and get your dream job, other times, you work hard and realize you should pursue a different dream.

  • jkimbr

    Reminds me of a friend of mine whose son informed her he was going to major in philosophy, his passion. Her classic response was, “That’s great! Now what are you going to do to put bread on the table?” He ended up double majoring in biology and now is in medical school. Medicine will be his “day job.”

  • Simon Somlai

    Pursue the things you’re highly skilled at – above average in all aspects

  • karenavillarreal

    Thank you for this. There have been some debates at my kids’ high school over this very thing http://kut.org/post/besomebody-speaker-draws-controversy-austin-high-school and you so elegantly and simply write the argument many of us have swimming around in our head but haven’t been able to convey.

  • Dan Wood

    I find this a very great posting. Mike has presented solid evidence to back up his opinion and back up why he said what he said. If only more people could do this. Nice job Mike!

  • Rick352

    His story with his grandfather reminds me of a friend I went to college with. She really wanted to be a creative director for an advertising agency. I guess I really knew she didn’t have what it would take. She just didn’t seem to have a natural creative talent. And you can tell that about a person by their early 20s. So she started going to job interviews right before we graduated. And at one of them a very senior level creative director dropped the bomb on her and told her the truth. He looked over he work from school and a couple of internships and basically told her she was years away from having the talent for the jobs she was trying to get out of college. And that there were many people who already had those talents at her age. She told me she walked out and broke down in her car crying. She was fortunately smart enough to realize he was right and started thinking about other options in Advertising. And I have no doubt that she’s been successful in whatever direction she did end up going in. She did end up a great company weeks later in a different type of role.

    A key problem in our society is that we have a lot of people graduating college who have had NO mentors. If you want to do something an your are young, get yourself a mentor. Its’ amazing how many businesses will let 16-22 year olds interns, shadow, hang out… And they will be honest with you. I might argue that after college is too late to realize your talents.

  • Desire Inspires

    Like the new saying goes “Do what you love, but always follow the money.”

  • Frank_Lovece

    Millions of good jobs are going unfilled??? Is he high? That is demonstrably, quantifiably untrue.

  • Heywood Jablowme

    So what he is saying is “Switch careers until you finally find something to do that doesn’t want to make you put a bullet in your head after 30 years of doing it.” Good advice.

  • Sue Cole

    Love it! Makes a lot of sense for someone who’s never felt a passion for anything, but is good at a lot of things!

  • wyjomo

    Rowe’s response is honest and wise. Somehow we’ve lost the qualifier for describing what you do when you’re really saying what you like to do. You may like to sing, but you’re not a singer until somebody pays you to sing, you’re not a writer until you get paid for it, no matter how passionate you are. You don’t want to make money doing something you just can’t stand, but do figure out a way to support yourself realistically. And like Mike says, take your passion with you, you never know what’s ahead on the road of life.

  • Dania Abreu

    I think is wonderful. Being a professor, i have kids everyday following passion. Me, like Mike, always warn them and try to make a balance between passion and practicality. Eventually they find their way, by their own mistakes and success. They need to be liberated from passion and be more aware of what they really want to do for at least 30 years. I wanted to be a writer, it was my passion. I was not good at it, but good at teaching and another kind of writing. I found a real passion. Carry on.

  • JEButler

    Been giving the same advice to my kids and now my grandkids. If your passion isn’t paying the bills, then it’s time to set it aside and make a living till it does.

  • SchoolBoardlady

    Rowe said it more eloquently than I could. Right on Rowe.

  • ELM58

    Mike’s response makes total sense to me. I only wish people would also be mindful that if someone happens to be passionate AND successful aka making a living at something that appears glamourous or ‘fun to do’, please don’t assume that they haven’t worked their behinds off to get where they’re at. In fact most successful musicians, artists, actors, etc continue to work hard every day, in spite of their ‘passion’ and success. Talent will only get you so far, and then it’s just plain hard work – much of which outsiders are rarely aware.

  • Shaun Curran

    Growing up, I dreamed of being a teacher and a writer. During high school, I was a paperboy and chased grocery carts. During my twenties I had a position as a teacher’s aide, a data entry typist, and a caretaker at a group home. Most of these jobs had various degrees of hard work, and I am not even factoring in the summer I put together sheds in 100 degree heat. While I agree with Mike that hard work is rewarding, that does not mean that all work involves digging ditches and putting together sheds. As a professor, I often find myself spending more time grading and explaining processes than I did putting vinyl siding on a prefabbed shed. While the term ‘follow your passion’ can be misleading and limiting, I think we all have various dreams or goals that we should push toward.

  • amportfolio

    I have to agree with Rowe in many ways with this. I remember I originally had dreams of being a successful club/rave DJ…but the reality hit that I just didn’t have the “it factor” that seemingly is needed now, and I wasn’t willing anymore to push/sacrifice to “make it”.

    The funny thing was in those days with limited money, I had to be very DIY with many things, like flyers, CD/cassette art, and a website. So I took it on myself to do all those things on my own…and ended up finding a career in web design/development. Suddenly I was the “superstar” people called on, as opposed to me begging for work.

    Even then, this is still a hard work career where I have to constantly push to learn new things and new ideas. I’ve watched many who think they can just be designers and nothing more. Some succeed into that and are seen as highly-coveted artists, but many more fall through the cracks because they don’t have more to offer that 1000 more designers can.

    I’m more a fan of “find your passion” over “follow your dreams”. Find something you’re good at that makes you a living, and fly with it. Like it or not, we have to live in the real world where things cost money, and you need to earn it.

  • Ronald

    Mike is bang on!

  • David Ludwig

    Mike Rowe is sounding so much like Judge Smails from Caddyshack, “Well, the world needs ditch-diggers, too.” Someone needs to put John Cusack, and him on the same show. And as for his obvious snark about Medieval Studies and French Literature, I’m glad some people think more with their hearts, than their wallets. The people who major in the Humanities know going-in that they aren’t learning these things in order to make a killing on Wall Street. Maybe they don’t have the Capitalist gene, Mike. And, I know the next comment to rebuff my premise will be along the lines of, “Then they better not try to collect Welfare or Food Stamps with a useless major like that.”

  • Don Skeeter Norton

    BEST ADVICE EVER is to do what makes YOU happy not what makes everybody around you happy PERIOD.

  • Molon Labe

    You should definitely do what you hate most. That’s the sensible approach.

  • Stephanie Morris

    Some of the most common sense words I have heard in a very long time. In a world where everything is based on do what feels good, what makes you happy or doesn’t hurt anyone’s feelings, it seems good ole common sense has been kicked to the curb. Therefore, it is very refreshing to “hear” someone who has it and more importantly unafraid to say it.

  • snipsoftime

    I believe ht seems lately we are telling everyone that they are great and will be wonderful. It’s like taking my daughter to gymnastics and every child getting a prize…then a substitute gymnastic teacher came and only gave the “best” in the class that day the “special” prize (a chocolate wonder ball) and the rest of the class got suckers. The point is, not EVERYONE is going to be the “best” and we need to teach our children that sometimes you can’t be the best because you don’t have what it takes to be the “best” and sometimes others are just better at something than you. It’s reality, it’s not about it being “fair.” Yes, it sucks when you don’t get the prize, but that’s reality! I tried to teach my kids to “do their best” and to realize that your best might not be as good as someone else. It’s okay to not be the best in some parts of your life and to look at things in a realistic way. So many parents now are building their kids up to the point they are shattered when they hit the real world. His analogy with American Idol is perfect. If your mommy tells you through your whole life you have a fantastic voice when you don’t….

  • Judy Rowe

    I love it. So true of our society right now. Young people are fed alot of fluff and nothing solid to build a life on. Get the basics started and see if your dreams may start to fit in with your reality. Always strive and work to be better at being you!

  • J M

    Those who can’t do…become motivational speakers

  • jeremyleejames

    I tend to agree with Rowe on this. To a point.

    Some people can, will, and should follow their passion. When those people read Rowe’s advice, they’ll ignore it, and a certain percentage of them will end up being the innovators, artists, and game changers upon which the advancement of our society depends.

    Others, who merely *think* they’re passionate about a given pursuit, will listen to Rowe’s advice and quit, proving they’re weren’t truly passionate.

    The vast majority of people, however, would be wise to listen to what Rowe’s saying—although I think Cal Newport, in his book, SO GOOD THEY CAN’T IGNORE YOU (http://calnewport.com/books/so-good/), articulates the point even better (paraphrasing):

    Get good at something valuable to society, and the passion will follow, not the other way around.

  • KhanneaSuntzu

    Amazing

  • Gideon Hodge

    Don’t follow your passion, but always bring it with you.
    Some sound advice from a very successful man.

    What people forget about Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, when they tout ‘they followed their passion’
    More importantly, they saw an opening in the market, and had/gained the skills to take advantage of that opportunity. It was just passion, it was planning and follow through.

    Goals are just dreams with a destination.

  • Darlene

    As a former career counselor with over 20 years of working with unemployed, underemployed and displaced “ready to work” individuals, I have to agree with Mike. Our schools and culture have denied students the agony of defeat, disappointment and truth, by giving everyone kudos of “great try” and “you’ll do it next time” instead of “let’s see what else you can do” or “what else do you enjoy doing” — it sure isn’t coming in last or defeated. We all have strengths that we can put to good use, the trick is finding them and having a support system that will help you do it.

  • Rita Bumbera

    Very smart man!!!!

  • Barbara Mercer

    I think he is a fake as DICK

  • Robin Janet Kilburn

    this was an excellent read, and I have to agree with what was said, but also add to it, . I believe we sometimes need to do a reality check on our beliefs system. I stayed in a huge failed marriage because I thought that if I worked harder, did more, contributed more, showed how much I wanted to see this marriage work. I never criticized my partner when he couldn’t hold on to a job, because he felt that it was beneath him, how he borrowed money and charged things with no intention of repayment. I hoped wished and prayed for this man to change his ways. After about 15 years I knew I was going to have this child /adult for the rest of my life. So I walked, and have never looked back

  • Peggy Perry

    I grew up in poverty when a bowl of beans a day was living good. I graduated from high school because of my mother’s determination. I wasn’t able to go to college or even trade school. I had been working odd jobs since I was 5 to help the family survive. I worked at minimum wage jobs for many more than 40 hours a week and barely survived. I got a job doing data entry and went out of my mind with boredom, but boy, did I enjoy the money! My passion was writing fiction. I was too busy working to find time to write. I loathed my various jobs as a cog on a wheel for decades. Then I fell into a job teaching new employees, then moved into writing the training material, then found myself being consulted as a national subject matter expert fielding questions from all over the nation. I wrote procedures that essentially directed financial matters for millions of people and dollars. I enjoyed using my brain and helping create order out of chaos. Then I retired, and now I am writing, while I live on the pension I earned doing years of work I didn’t like. I didn’t get to follow my passion for a long time, but I found other ways to satisfy myself until I could. I may never make a living as a writer, but now I don’t have to. Very few people are good enough at what they are passionate about to survive on it. Find something you can do, do it the best you can, try to indulge your passion in your free time, don’t be a parasite on anybody, and for your own satisfaction, try to make the world a better place no matter how small the contribution.

  • Cynthia Flanagan

    I sure wish I could share this with my son. Sean Flanagan are you out there?

  • Movie Mankiewicz

    As always, Mike gives an erudite and compelling account of his point of view. I’ve always enjoyed his responses because they are so well thought-out. I started out to be an opera singer. I even made it to the MET finals in Los Angeles and I actually *could* sing, unlike so many on AI. After many years of persistence, I realized that money was a key ingredient for that career. After many twists and turns in life, I now teach Spanish now and I’m very happy- probably happier than I would have been if my first passion had worked out and I’m positive I’m more fulfilled. And yes, I brought my passion to Spanish so it works!

    As I’ve told him before… Mike is my renaissance man! :)
    Thanks for sharing & keep on keepin’ on….
    ~ Susan

  • Fury

    I love this guy :)

  • Tammy Shaw Bray

    Wise man.

  • Stephen Wolfi Sweet

    I’d never thought of it this way, but I am inclined to agree. Very thoughtful response. I’m glad I took the time to read it as it has given me a banquet for thought.

  • Ingersolid

    Implicit in this advice, and the moralizing handwringing in the comments, is the notion that if you are not entirely self-sufficient, no matter how briefly, you must be doing something wrong–and the well-being of the Republic itself is in danger! You better hurry up and settle! My Gosh! You might turn _30_ WITHOUT owning a single cabin cruiser! Newsflash, folks: nobody gets there (or stays there) alone. If you think you’ve “done it all” yourself, you’re probably just so far within the web of economic and political inter-dependency that you don’t even see how dependent you are.

  • Mike White

    Reach for the stars, but if you can’t catch the one you’re after, reach for a different one. Just keep your rocket ship fueled.

  • dobber

    He is right, my passion was hockey, but like most I was never good enough to actually get paid doing it. So i decided to coach, run camps, work with kids on the ice etc, Now I love that more than I ever did actually playing. I don’t make lots of money doing it, I have a “real” job, but the time I spend doing what I love on the ice, makes the trials of work seem insignificant, and I feel pretty fulfilled. Whatever you love, do it but keep your real job. Don’t expect to make money off your passion. It may happen, but most likely it won’t. But at least you are enjoying your dream *and* paying the bills. The world is filled with old *actresses* who spent their lives serving tables, waiting for the big break.

  • David Moore

    Great advice. If there is anything that people say in their elder years, it’s “so glad I played it safe”

  • Penny Riley Nesmith

    Good advice. He makes good sense. NOW I just need to figure out how to tell my daughter that she can’t sing. Lol

  • Dan Alvírez

    I think the last line is all that needs saying. Sometimes it’s not about the passion, but bringing passion into everything you do.

  • Bill H

    I think he missed the point. As the saying goes, “Most generalizations are false, including this one!”

    The advice, “Follow your passion” shouldn’t be taken literally, but rather in the context that it’s better to be doing something you like than something you don’t like. Making money isn’t good enough justification to spend most of your time doing something you don’t like. (I have to add, unless you need the money to survive, because some people who miss the point will take that last sentence literally – almost always there are exceptions to any short sentence).

    I say, “Do follow you passions.” Everyone is, or at least should be, passionate about more than one thing, and anyone who stays passionate about something they can’t ever do will usually learn to switch to something else.

    Again, almost any short good piece of advice will be wrong in some context.

    And, I am surprised that someone can’t be trained to be a good tradesman. Clearly some people would be better tradesmen than others, but I thought that was something that could be taught that most people could learn. I guess I was wrong about that.

  • Alexander Keoni Williams

    Mike my piscean brother, the wisdom is in the water, and you my friend are wise. Thank you for sharing your opinion continually and for not allowing what society thinks an individual should be to define you. Your inspiration to people like myself, who are constantly lookinv for answers and ways to better ourselves in the world. Happy Saturday!

  • Florentinapetillo1

    Anyone that can do an anslysis like this and use the vocabulary he used, evidently is highly educated.

  • shiningstars

    The American Idol reference pretty much summed it up!

  • Frank Pfeiffer

    When I was growing up my Dad used to say that the harder he worked, the luckier he became. He farmed, worked at Ford Motor Company in Detroit during the war, built houses after the war and raised 6 kids. All at the same time. He was hard as nails but fair and I learned this from him. From your epistles it seems we could be from the same family. Keep writing.

  • Joe

    I also think that even if you do follow your passion, it is not chalked up to what it is suppose to be. Even if you have a job that is your “passion” you can still have bad days just as if you weren’t following your passion. Also, at the end of the day, chase the opportunity, go against the grain. Sometimes you have to just punch your time clock in and out. Stop putting your career, job on a pedestal and just work.

  • Walter Montoya

    I am inclined to say that Mike Rowe hit all the nails on the head. Although we are all able to do that of which we put our minds, hearts, bodies, and hands to. Our Lord Yeshua tells us “that let everything that we put our hands to be blessed.”

  • spj3k54

    Must agree that Mike has a point. “Passion is too important to be without, but too fickle to be guided by. Which is why I’m more inclined to say, “Don’t Follow Your Passion, But Always Bring it With You.”

  • Walter Lum

    awesome reply Mike

  • David J

    Brilliant response. Passion IS important, but some times ones “passion” makes for a better hobbybthan a career. I know a very intelligent young man who is a fabulously talented musician, who is studying engineering in university. I asked him why he didn’t choose to ( in fact, tried to convince him) to study music. His reply was he could always enjoy music, but he’d be better off pursuing a career in engineering.

  • Michael Ide Sr.

    I’m with Mike. He’s very wise. Not looking for the easy way out. Nobody’s going to give you a free ride.

  • Jon David Natan

    Awesome!

  • Jerry Pattee

    Perfect.

  • cardmaster1

    This man, Mike Rowe, is Fat more Intelligent than his on screen persona would lead you to believe. In fact, he is brilliant!!

  • Ianspa

    As usual, a common sense response from Mike. Passion is an important aspect to anything you do but you can be passionate about something and still be unemployed. Passion should not necesarily be connected to a persons career choice unless they fully understand the consequences of that choice and people should never confuse a passion for something with making a living because what we do for work can sometimes fuel and feed a passion that has nothing to do with what we do for a living.

  • Chris Elliott

    Perfect. Especially with these generations that feel so entitled when they aren’t. Many of us had dreams that they couldn’t realize and had to compromise to pay bills. Try gratitude to achieve happiness . And kids today shouldn’t get a trophy unless they did something to deserve it. Life is full of dissapointments and kids need to understand that to be able to function in the real world.

  • Brenda Henson

    Mike Rowe is a very smart man ! And I agree with him, He is Right !

  • James W Hagan

    For people who do not fancy boring jobs and like variety i will tell you how i handled that. I enjoy doing many things but one has bills to pay and needs to keep a roof over their head so that need comes first. What i did was i went to work in companies i could envision owning at some point. So if i thought owning an auto repair shop, i got hired in whatever position i could gain entry into the company and then i set out to learn everything i needed to know to open the same kind of company. I saved my money so i had some funds to work with when i gained the knowledge i needed and then i set about opening a repair shop. I found a garage that was for rent and had not been rented due to being in the wrong area of town and made an offer to the landlord something like give me a chance to open this shop and if at the end of 90 days i either pay you the rent or close it down. Everyone has something to gain. He gets a rented building and i get a successful business. I get bored easily so i would keep a business open about a year and then sell it for a profit and then set about finding my next business venture. I opened over 30 businesses over the years. Most made money but i had a few that were failures for a variety of reasons. Knowing when to get out of a business that is failing is important. Don’t use up all your funds trying to hang on unless you see things improving in the short term future. This worked for me and kept me from being bored and kept a roof over my head and my bills paid and saved up some money for when one of the ventures did not pan out then i was not broke. Of course i always had to gain entry into a business so i always had a paycheck coming in until i decided to open my own business. It is a win win plan if you have the ability to work in jobs that may not be in your likable jobs to do. But just remember your there to learn as much as you can as fast as you can and if your dedicated your supervisors or owners will see you want to learn and people love to teach people that have that attitude.

  • Rong See

    What do I do if I hate almost every job out there, and can merely tolerate a small portion? I guess that at least I won’t suffer from disappointment when I realise that I am hopeless at my passion, because I don’t have one.

  • ” G “

    right on the ” money “

  • Mike Chinni

    Well said Mike, well said (as usual).

  • Jules

    Here is the actual commencement address Mike Rowe gave to Prager U. complete with entertaining graphics.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVEuPmVAb8o

  • old motorcycle enthusiast

    My goodness, all the picky, picky attacks on Mike’s spelling mistakes. ATTENTION: Look at the Sky, not your Toes, what Mike said is cold hard reality. Find something you are good at doing. Work can become fun, and rewarding. Mike is promoting Pavlovian, If-Then, logic. You like, you drool, you do more. Good ahead ridicule Mike, but a few of you will absorb, learn and become successful and happy. To you, the rest of you poor sarcasm , “Oh well…..”

    “Show me a sarcastic kid,” a good solid buddy once told me, “and I will show you a wounded person. I can tell you where their wound is too, it’s in their soul.”

    Truth be told, without resorting to “Spell Check”, I’d put good money on many of the authors of the dozens of snide replies to Mike’s wisdom invoking a veritable avalanche of Muntz style “Ha! Ha!” retorts.

    Read what he wrote – yes, yes, yes he made a couple of mistakes, big deal. The Ideas here Skippy! The CONCEPT of how to ACHIEVE “happiness”. We live in Hawaii where the “Dreamers Follow their Bliss” live infested by red ants, centipedes, stinging nettle caterpillars etc., in tents, unframed plywood structures, no potable water, no sewer, no savings, no future, on taxpayer funded welfare, 30 ish, toting kids with dreadlocks – just following their bliss. You can not miss seeing them here. The vast majority will die having been fiscal leaches on Society.

    Mike and I prefer to leave Society richer, by what we did with our wisdom. That is true bottom line, being fiscally responsible. Being fiscally wealthy allows you to invest more, benefiting more.

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